From: Patrick Jankowiak (recycler@swbell.net)
Date: Mon Apr 04 2005 - 21:03:34 PDT
http://science.howstuffworks.com/oil-refining4.htm
MV wrote:
>
> I might be nuts enough to try something like that myself also.
>
> How much pressure had to be maintained on the oil when it is heated to
> 1300 degrees? That would determine piping size, etc.
>
> If that is all that is required to crack the oil? A regular
> distillation column should work to separate the lights from the heavies.
> I thought the refineries were using some type of catalyst to crack the
> fuel at lower temperatures now?? Well water could be an easy way to
> cool the column, especially if you have a well.
>
> A feed pump would be required obviously, some type of pressure control
> system with some control valves and a automatic heat control system.
>
> The resultant mixture could be separated with a conventional
> distillation column. I'm not too sure what my neighbors would think of
> that. But compared to what I have done before, they might not even
> notice. (:->)
>
> I'm surprised that no one makes small cracking units already?
>
> I work on industrial process controls as my profession and have done
> work on ethanol production equipment. (Neutral spirits - AKA - Vodka)
>
> A lot of what you would probably need can be obtained on the used
> equipment market. Even the controls.
>
> Dave
>
> earl.beverly@us.abb.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Gene, Hi All,
>>
>> I actually work in the business. I am the lead engineer for an ethylene
>> cracking/poly ethylene unit that ABB is building in Rio De Janeiro,
>> Brazil.
>> I have worked in several gasoline/diesel refineries, so I am not new
>> to the
>> process. (I should be in Rio until September).
>>
>> The trick that I am looking to build is "small". There is a guy selling a
>> three million dollar, 10 acre, 16,000 gallons per day unit out of South
>> Carolina. That is quite a bit more than I am looking for. I am thinking
>> everything in a 4'x8'x4' package and producing 100 gallons per day. Maybe
>> everything in 8'x8'x40' container with 100 gpd.
>>
>> I am hoping to gain from anyone's practical experience with Lab scale
>> thermal cracking and separating. The idea being to;
>>
>> Heat the oil to about 1300 deg F. This will break the oil into light
>> ends,
>> raw gasoline, and fuel oil. The gasses and gasoline are used to fire the
>> furnace, the fuel oil gets filtered, stored, and used. This is an overly
>> simplified version, but you get the idea.
>>
>> Once again - looking for practical experience or even thoughts on the
>> subject.
>>
>> Thanks, Earl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Message from "SGM PANTANO" <TRUKS1@msn.com> received on 04/04/2005
>> 01:07 PM
>>
>>
>> It has been done..it is being done.. Many oil companies used to buy back
>> drain oil and re --refine it. The E FRIGGING PA stopped most of it..
>> Go to
>> a
>> local refinery if you have one...and ask them.. It was a very simple
>> operation..but -- it was very cost effective and made cheap fuel -- so
>> the
>> EPA stopped it..
>> Gene
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I want to run waste motor oil. I am looking at;
>>> 1. filtering and warming.
>>> 2. filtering and warming and mixing with diesel.
>>> 3. building a "lab" size cracking package to break down the wmo to
>>> diesel
>>> and other gas/oils. Just big enough to meet my needs and run 24/7.
>>>
>>> Anyone got any experience along this avenue, especially #3 ?
>>>
>>> Six M-35A2's (two are parts)
>>> One M-51 Dump
>>> One M-54 Cargo
>>> Two 5kw Gensets (the only power for my home)
>>> One 15kw Genset (new to me gov. genset in a sound proofed 8'x8'x28'
>>> container - will be home power)
>>> One Bucyrus Erie Crane - Diesel
>>> One Backhoe - Diesel
>>> One Chevy one ton PU - Diesel
>>> One Mercedes Car - Diesel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I NEED DIESEL!
>>>
>>> Earl
>>>
>>>
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