From: Ed Kirkley (mojoedd@bellsouth.net)
Date: Sat Apr 16 2005 - 11:12:32 PDT
Hi Jim,
As for experimental aircraft, they can't haul passengers, (for pay I think,
a little rusty here), can't be used as a commercial aircraft, can't fly over
some areas without prior FAA permission and a few other things that I can't
bring to mind, sorry.
As for UH1.com I have no knowledge good or bad for those folks.
Regards,
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Breneman" <jimbre_7@yahoo.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 13:28
Subject: Re: [MV] Helicopter Sealed Bid at Surplus Property
> You guys have been over this before, when the UH-1s
> were on GSA. But can anyone tell me again what the
> restrictions for an "experimental" aircraft are? How
> bad does the FAA stick it to you if you have a former
> warbird that's registered as "experimental"? Also, has
> anyone ever done business with www.UH-1.com? They seem
> to have a lot of surplus aircraft. Which senators do
> you have to pay-off to get that kind of inventory? (Im
> kidding of course.)
>
>
> --- Ed Kirkley <mojoedd@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > Sorry to say Lar but you are incorrect. I have
> > personally converted many
> > OH-58's, UH1-H & Ns and OH-6s to civilian service.
> > It takes some
> > modification but it's not all that hard or expensive
> > to do. Of course a lot
> > of the mods are just plain a pain in the rear but
> > after you are finished and
> > the FAA inspects and are happy they issue you a
> > civilian certification and
> > "N" number. You can then do anything in that
> > helicopter that you can do in
> > one you buy that's always been a civilian model. I
> > did this for years and
> > as I am now at odds with the major airline that I
> > worked for I may take this
> > up again. It's actually a good business to be in,
> > (most of the time). Just
> > be sure and get your money up front!!!!!!!!!!!! Ask
> > me how I know that
> > one!!
> >
> > On the other hand if you want to keep it military
> > for what ever reason then
> > you leave it as it is and it holds an experimental
> > certificate and cannot do
> > the things that a civy bird can do.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Ed
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Tighe" <larryradio@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
> > <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 18:23
> > Subject: Re: [MV] Helicopter Sealed Bid at Surplus
> > Property
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: [MV] Helicopter Sealed Bid at Surplus
> > Property
> > > State of South Carolina has this up for sealed
> > bids. This type OH-6A was
> > > used during the Vietnam war. Wayne
> > > =====================================
> > >
> > > Sorry to say, Wayne, that OH-6 can't fly under a
> > civil license. Helo
> > > manufacturers got smart after the Sikorskis and
> > Bell's were retired
> > > (CH-34's, OH-13's etc.)...they could be licensed
> > civil.
> > >
> > > The Bell OH-58's, Hughes OH-6's and Bell UH-1's
> > don't exist at the FAA and
> > > cannot be licensed...that way the manufacturers
> > got them out of the civil
> > > market and don't have to compete against their old
> > warbirds being in the
> > > market.
> > >
> > > They can only fly under "experimental" or
> > "restricted"...very sad. I
> > guess
> > > that's kinda what AmerGeneral tried to do with the
> > HMMWV, huh?
> > >
> > > Lar
> > >
> > >
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