From: Jon Shoop (shoop19@brick.net)
Date: Fri Apr 29 2005 - 03:47:13 PDT
Most states allow free passage.......and do not require residents of other
states to comply with local regs......for instance....
KY does not require trailer plates.
I was in MO and a trooper pulled us over, where are your trailer plates he
asked? Don't have them in KY was the answer......
Just a minute he said....went back to his car and called local DOT.....
Returned a few minutes later, tipped his hat and said, Just learned
something.....have a safe drive...and away we went.
Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve & Jeannie Keith" <cckw@comcast.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] CDL's & MV's VERY LONG hit DELETE NOW
> I wonder how that 'Out of state vehicles and operators must meet the same
> requirements as the residents of that state' when it come to registration.
>
> Here in NH, I showed the Dept of Safety a pic of my 'fleet' of HMVs and
> they asked why I had plates on the 37mm and 57mm AT guns. I said that
> they were trailers... They said that any 'trailer' that cannot carry
> anything:
> log splitter, cement mixer or AT gun does not need to be registered.
> So now they do not have plates.
>
> So what happens when I go to another state? Same issue with the TX
> law about HMVs using the hood or bumper number instead of plates...
>
>
> Steve AKA Dr Deuce
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn Shaw" <mpmutt@mtaofnj.us>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 2:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] CDL's & MV's VERY LONG hit DELETE NOW
>
>
> Thanks for the detailed info Bill. It is pretty much the same as we have
> here in MA also. Another point to note is that when travelling through MA
> or any other state you have to comply with the laws of that state while
you
> are driving through. Out of state vehicles and operators must meet the
same
> requirements as the residents of that state. The police will enforce the
> local state regs. This would also include compulsory insurance
requirements
> of the different states. For non commercial use you just need the CDL for
> the over 26K vehicles, not the medical card, log book and all the DOT
stuff.
>
> Regards
> Glenn
> MVPA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Kealey [mailto:cwkealey@atlanticbb.net]
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:53 PM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] CDL's & MV's VERY LONG hit DELETE NOW
>
>
>
> > did we figure out what was the final word on needing a CDL?? Here is
> > my queston.........I bought a 5 ton tractor in NH, she is still
registered
>
> > in that state, I want to get it home to vt.........do I need it? I am
> > assuming yes
>
> *************************************
>
> I have the "Maryland Commercial Driver's License Manual" right here and
this
>
> is what it says for Commercial Drivers licensed in Maryland.
>
> "A commercial motor vehicle means a motor vehicle or combination of motor
> vehicles used to transport passengers or cargo if the vehicle fits any of
> the following conditions.
>
> * Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight (GCW) of
> 26,001 or more pounds
> * A vehicle with a Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) of 26,001 or more pounds
(GVW
>
> for a single vehicle and GCW for a combination of vehicles means: The
> greatest of the following weights. (1) The value specified by the
> manufacture as the maximum gross weight, (2) the operating weight, (3) the
> registered gross weight.)
> * any vehicle which is designed to transport 16 or more passengers,
> including the driver.
> * A vehicle of any size which transports hazardous materials which
requires
>
> placarding.
>
> Waivers have been granted for the operation of some vehicles. You are not
> required to have a Commercial Driver's License to drive a vehicle granted
a
> waiver. However, you must have a Maryland non-commercial driver's license
> of the appropriate class to operate a vehicle which has been waived.
>
> The following vehicles have been waived from CDL requirements in Maryland:
>
> * A vehicle that is owned and opeated by a farmer:
> --- used to transport agricultural products, farm machinery, or farm
> supplies to or from a farm;
> --- not used in the operations of a common or contract motor carrier; and
> --- used within 150 miles of the person's farm.
> * An emergency vehicle:
> --- equipped with audible and visual signals;
> --- opereated by a member of or a person in the employ of a volunteer or
> paid fire or rescue organization.
> * A vehicle owned by the United States Department of Defense if it is
> controlled and operated by:
> --- any active duty military personnel; or
> --- any member of the military reserves or national guard on active duty,
> including personnel on full-time national guard duty,
> personnel on part-time training, and national guard military
> technicians.
> --- A motor vehicle designed and constructed primarily to provide
temporary
> living quarters for recreational, camping, or
> travel use."
>
> THEN it goes on to say on a later page:
>
> "There is a federal requirement that each state have minimum standards for
> the licensing of commercial drivers. This manual provides driver license
> testing information for drivers who wish to have a Commercial Driver
License
>
> (CDL). This manual does NOT provide information on all the federal and
> state requirements needed before you can drive a Commercial Motor Vehicle
> (MV). You may have to contact your state driver licensing authority for
> additional information.
>
> You must have a CDL to operate:
>
> * A single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of more than
> 26,000 pounds.
> * A trailer with a GVWR of more than 10,000 pounds if the gross
combination
>
> weight rating is more than 26,000 pounds.
> * A vehicle designed to transport more than 15 persons (including the
> driver).
> * Any size vehicle which requires hazardous materials placards."
>
> ************************
>
> In Maryland, the 2-1/2 ton trucks (highway rated at 5 tons) fit into the
> catagory of vehicles rated at 26,000 pounds or less and since the M105
> trailers are rated at 1-1/2 (highway rated at 3 tons (?)) these vehicles
are
>
> exempt from CDL.
>
> UNLESS it is used commercially or transporting more than 15 persons
> including the driver.
>
> There is no difference for historic tags as to the CDL requirements.
>
> My M35A2 is registered "historic". My insurance company will only insure
it
>
> as "Commercial". I do not use it commercially at all. Therefore, I am
not
> required to have a CDL in Maryland.
>
> Anything larger, regardless of how it is registered, I believe must also
> include a CDL for the driver.
>
> ******************
>
> Just my .5 cents worth give or take.
>
> Bill Kealey
>
> MVPA #24623
> 1954 Willys M38A1 USMC jeep
> 1972 AM Gen M35A2 USA 2-1/2 ton truck w/winch
> 1985 Turtle Mountain MFG. M105A2 USAF 1-1/2 ton trailer
>
>
>
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