From: timothy.smith1@att.net
Date: Fri Jun 03 2005 - 21:53:08 PDT
Mike,
Well, again, I can't speak as to what is being done in your area but I can give you a real world example of the weird and wonderful world of GVWR.
"Take 3" is a brand of trailer that many hotshot haulers (those who run small loads with dually pickups) use to haul cars around. The trailer consists of one long ramp that extends up over the coupler. Take 3 routinely uses three 7100# axles so by your formula every one of their trailers should have a stated GVWR or determined GVWR of 21,300# -BUT- Take 3 rates some of their trailers at 21,000 GVWR (stated on the data plate) and some at 14,000 GVWR (also stated on the data plate) and it's the SAME trailer design! They can do that...they're the manufacturer and they can rate their trailers at whatever rating they want to. Believe me...I researched it! So, if I encounter a guy who was savvy enough to get himself a 14,000 GVWR and stay under the 26,0001 threshhold, I smile, wave goodbye, and say have a nice day.
Cool, huh?
TJ
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Mike <michael@tsixroads.com>
> I have had more than I person tell me that if there is no Data plate or even if
> there is, that they will look at the number of lug bolts on the axles. Six
> means 3500 pounds, 8 means at least 5200 pounds. Two 5200 pound axles means
> 10400 GVWR. No one makes 5000 pound axles.
>
> And I have talked to several people, some in enforcement, and have gotten about
> as many different answers.
>
> Mike
> Tishomingo, MS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: timothy.smith1@att.net
> Sent: Jun 3, 2005 11:13 PM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Subject: Re: [MV] Oh NO!..DOT
>
> Mike,
>
> I will speak as to Texas driver's license law only (yours may be different or
> perhaps quite similar) my guess is it'll probably be similar.
>
>
>
> Texas has administrative rules which cover other circumstances such as the
> absence of a determinable GVWR on vehicles. Suppose I have a guy who is handy
> and he builds himself a big honkin' trailer with no assigned GVWR. In this case
> (absence of GVWR) the rules state I am to use his registered trailer weight
> (this is my primary source) or actual weight (secondary source) for the purpose
> of determining CDL.
>
> So, your best source of information on what YOU need in your area is your local
> driver's license office. Ask for their CDL handbook; the study guide for taking
> a CDL test. It will spell out the ins and outs of CDL in your state quite
> clearly.
>
>
>
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