From: Bob N (notmanr7@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Jun 07 2005 - 01:57:03 PDT
Now I want to sort of laugh...as a card carrying member of the MVPA since
about 1980 with a break here and there. I never thought of the club as a
"jeep club". If you look at Army Motors, it covers much more than jeeps.
Popularity of jeeps may be related to availability, ease of repair as
compares to something on the scale of armor or even a Dodge. Have a buddy
says he is selling off his WW2 Dodge trucks and moving into the jeep
world..."I'm getting too old to change the dang tires on the Dodge..."
Instead of a "jeep club" I see the MVPA as trying to allow itself to quietly
be taken over by the re-enactor crowd. I'm sure there's a place to play
dress up but is the MVPA it? I don't see anything wrong with playing dress
up for a parade or a special event but running around the woods, yelling
"hoo-ah!"...I'm not there, just yet. 8^) The MVPA is basically a car club.
You can tell it by the judging standards where a dull plain ol' factory job
vehicle is considered better than one loaded up and ready to use, just like
during the war, campaign, police action (whatever).
But these current events seem to be about a very few members that want to
oust a member, actually a board member with what allegedly appears like a
lack of due process. It really licks the red off your candy and throws it
into the sand.
Bob n>
www.42FordGPW.com
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From: "chance wolf" <chance_wolf@shaw.ca>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] MVPA - interesting reading on the G503 list
> From an Australian collector ( dgrev@iinet.net.au ) who for some reason
> cannot post this himself:
>
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>> I would suggest that a lot of us support the MVPA even if we aren't
> current
>> members. Address some of those issues above, and I'd further suggest we
>> will gladly become members once again.
>
> Back when the proposed armour (US = Armor) ban first came about. I
> challenged the MVPA (as an overseas member) to do something about it,
> before, like all bad US ideas, it spread to the rest of the western
> world. Luckily it was the Warbirds crowd that saw to it that idea
> never got off first base, the MVPA did a "Cavalry to the rescue"
> impersonation and only got active AFTER the Warbird crowd had done
> all the hard work and pretty well had things under control.
>
> When I challenged them the response was "they aren't going to ban jeeps
> so we aren't worried" - well thanks for nothing! So, after a public
> debate on this list with one or 2 of their heirachy I did not renew
> my membership, it was made quite plain to me that my opinion didn't
> count for 3 reasons.
>
> 1) I didn't own a jeep (ah, but yes I did, I just didn't tell them!)
> 2) I wasn't a US citizen (so even though I was a paid up member, I
> was categorised as irrelevant).
> 3) I was an armour owner.
>
> This, as far as I remember was shortly before they
> got the knives out over a gent who was trying to get on the committee
> and looked like upsetting their cosy little jeep club (don't recall
> his name), any of you who have been on this list for years will recall
> that saga. Then there was the Italian vote scandal and more dirty
> washing and the MVPA lost one heck of a lot of credibility.
>
> They need to prove that they ARE NOT JUST A WW2 JEEP CLUB IN DISGUISE,
> before they can regain any credibility with armour owners! Or
> probably for that matter, anyone who owns anything that isn't WW2 or
> jeep (or both).
>
> Or should we just ask the Italians to vote out the entire committee
> and vote in a whole new crowd. Personally I would think it hilarious
> if the committee meetings were scheduled for Naples and conducted in
> Italian.... the MVPA would then really be an international organisation
> rather than pretending to be one in order to get our money.
>
> Regards
> Doug
> Armour owner and - FORMER - MVPA member.
>
> (End Quoted Material)
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