From: JEFF HAIN-MATSON (flmv@flmv.net)
Date: Tue Jun 07 2005 - 05:54:04 PDT
Bob N wrote:
>
>
> Instead of a "jeep club" I see the MVPA as trying to allow itself to quietly
> be taken over by the re-enactor crowd.
I am glad that I am not the only one who sees this. The thing that will suck
about it is that the reenact ors have at least 2 major groups here in the
states, and they are ripe with politics and problems from what I have been
told... Guess we are just seeing the tip of the ice burg for the events to
come....
> I'm sure there's a place to play
> dress up but is the MVPA it? I don't see anything wrong with playing dress
> up for a parade or a special event but running around the woods, yelling
> "hoo-ah!"...I'm not there, just yet. 8^) The MVPA is basically a car club.
> You can tell it by the judging standards where a dull plain ol' factory job
> vehicle is considered better than one loaded up and ready to use, just like
> during the war, campaign, police action (whatever).
>
> But these current events seem to be about a very few members that want to
> oust a member, actually a board member with what allegedly appears like a
> lack of due process. It really licks the red off your candy and throws it
> into the sand.
>
> Bob n>
> www.42FordGPW.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "chance wolf" <chance_wolf@shaw.ca>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] MVPA - interesting reading on the G503 list
>
> > From an Australian collector ( dgrev@iinet.net.au ) who for some reason
> > cannot post this himself:
> >
> > (Begin Quoted Material)
> >
> >> I would suggest that a lot of us support the MVPA even if we aren't
> > current
> >> members. Address some of those issues above, and I'd further suggest we
> >> will gladly become members once again.
> >
> > Back when the proposed armour (US = Armor) ban first came about. I
> > challenged the MVPA (as an overseas member) to do something about it,
> > before, like all bad US ideas, it spread to the rest of the western
> > world. Luckily it was the Warbirds crowd that saw to it that idea
> > never got off first base, the MVPA did a "Cavalry to the rescue"
> > impersonation and only got active AFTER the Warbird crowd had done
> > all the hard work and pretty well had things under control.
> >
> > When I challenged them the response was "they aren't going to ban jeeps
> > so we aren't worried" - well thanks for nothing! So, after a public
> > debate on this list with one or 2 of their heirachy I did not renew
> > my membership, it was made quite plain to me that my opinion didn't
> > count for 3 reasons.
> >
> > 1) I didn't own a jeep (ah, but yes I did, I just didn't tell them!)
> > 2) I wasn't a US citizen (so even though I was a paid up member, I
> > was categorised as irrelevant).
> > 3) I was an armour owner.
> >
> > This, as far as I remember was shortly before they
> > got the knives out over a gent who was trying to get on the committee
> > and looked like upsetting their cosy little jeep club (don't recall
> > his name), any of you who have been on this list for years will recall
> > that saga. Then there was the Italian vote scandal and more dirty
> > washing and the MVPA lost one heck of a lot of credibility.
> >
> > They need to prove that they ARE NOT JUST A WW2 JEEP CLUB IN DISGUISE,
> > before they can regain any credibility with armour owners! Or
> > probably for that matter, anyone who owns anything that isn't WW2 or
> > jeep (or both).
> >
> > Or should we just ask the Italians to vote out the entire committee
> > and vote in a whole new crowd. Personally I would think it hilarious
> > if the committee meetings were scheduled for Naples and conducted in
> > Italian.... the MVPA would then really be an international organisation
> > rather than pretending to be one in order to get our money.
> >
> > Regards
> > Doug
> > Armour owner and - FORMER - MVPA member.
> >
> > (End Quoted Material)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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