From: captw1 (captw1@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Aug 18 2005 - 13:55:03 PDT
Ron, that story is an out and out LIE!!...I believed
it, hook, line and sinker(relative to the ice
fishing), up until you said that Pierre returned with
the Genny beer, 'cause as you should know, any self
respecting Canadian, let alone a French Canadian
wouldn't be caught DEAD with any of that watered down
stuff north of the border that our Southern friends
laughably call beer!!
--- Ron <rojoha@adelphia.net> wrote:
> As usual, the Yanks try to make sport of the
> Canadians and just can not get
> it right. This remarkable picture is the only known
> photo the very early
> prototype attempt by Canadair to create the CL-28
> ARGUS Maritime Patrol
> Aircraft. The CL-28 was a Canadian license built
> version of the DC-4.
> This prototype was an attempt to make a 'Home
> Grown Canadian' version of
> the P-3 'Orion' US Maritime Patrol Aircraft.
> This Canadians prototype was novel in that the
> prototype was to be both
> amphibious and snow capable, using the license built
> French 'Float-a-uni
> Frog-eh Sink-non' (FUFSN). The Montreal office of
> Canadair, who was
> responsible for the detection electronics gear
> selection and installation,
> read several Popular Mechanics articles on modern US
> Destroyers. Thus up to
> speed on sub hunting, they put the 'Sonar Shack' on
> the stern of the FUFSN,
> thereby keeping the aircraft's weight down,
> providing a larger crew sleeping
> area away from the engines, keeping the wood stove
> remoted from fuel tank
> vapors, and allowing additional ground crew to be
> carried to manually deice
> the aircraft during flight in the hostile northern
> maritimes climate. An
> unexpected, but very welcome byproduct of the
> 'Shack' was that it caused a
> huge boost to the crews morale by providing a warm,
> secure location for ice
> fishing while the plane was not conducting Maritime
> Patrols in the air. This
> turned out to be always, since the aero dynamics of
> the FUFSN had a
> detrimental effect on the engines ability to get the
> hull up on the 'step',
> necessary for an amphibian to break contact with the
> water and become
> airborne. After 2 years of attempted test flights,
> the prototype program was
> scrapped in favor of a conventional land based
> operation design.
>
> But that was not the end of this novel idea.
>
> Approximately 10 years later, this very same
> prototype was the center of
> an international debate after it was purchased as
> surplus by Pierre Triovain
> of Saint-Eustache-sur-le-Lac, Quebec. He showed up
> at an Ice fishing
> tournament on Lake Ontario at Oswego, NY after
> sailing/taxing(?) down the
> Saint Lawrence Seaway.
> Tournament
> participants were required to haul their huts across
> the ice from the pier
> to the fishing area, about 15 miles away, catch at
> least 10 fish and then
> return the hut to the pier, for weigh in and length
> check (of the fish).
> Points were awarded for total fish weight, length,
> total time elapsed from
> departure to return, horse power of hut's 'motive'
> unit and 'panache'.
> Pierre's hands down winning point total was
> challenged by Mert Thomas of
> Jonestown WI. Mert claimed that Pierre had willfully
> and with malicious
> intent 'jazzed' his throttle several times when the
> starting gun was fired,
> blowing all the other contestants shanties 3/4 of a
> mile up Main St until
> they came to rest in front of the Finest Kind Fish
> Market and Medical Clinic
> of Oswego.
> It was also claimed Pierre had used 'depth
> charges' to break up the ice
> at the fishing area and he and his buddies had
> 'scooped' the fish onto the
> FUFSN instead of 'hooking' them like a proper ice
> fisherman. Since no one
> ever made it out to observe Pierre at work (he was
> out and back in 27
> minutes with 971 fish totaling 3100 lbs) these
> claims could not be
> substantiated. In the spirit of international good
> will the trophy was
> awarded to Pierre and he donated the fish to the
> FKFM&MCoO. He kept the
> $1000 cash prize for gas and the 137 cases of
> Genesee beer.
> The story takes a tragic turn, when the next
> day, Pierre's 'hut' was
> confiscated after being stopped and boarded by the
> HMCS Huron (DDE 216).
> Seems that Pierre had miscalculated the speed of the
> prototype CL-28 at 1/3
> throttle setting with a twenty knot following wind
> and the number of cans of
> beer his 16 man crew could consume per hour. He was
> headed acrooss Lake
> Ontario to Saint Catharines, ONT to show his 'hut'
> to his cousin, Francois,
> and due to the miscalculated speed of advance,
> entered Canadian waters 3
> hours too early. And 167 cans of Genesee beer over
> the amount allowed to be
> brought back per man after a 3 day US stay. After a
> clumsy attempt at trying
> to stash the excess cans in the sonabouy launcher
> racks to escape detection
> and accidentally launching a smoke float, he and his
> crew were arrested for
> attempted smuggling and violation of the Canadian
> 'Good Times Law'.
> The seized 'hut' was auctioned off in mid winter
> two years later by the
> Canadian Customs service but was lost when the new
> owner attempted to take
> his ice bound 'hut' away from it's moorings. Again,
> tragedy struck. Seems
> Pierre and his minions had taken to relieving
> themselves on the attaching
> bolts between the landing gear struts and the FUFSN.
> The stainless steel
> hardware proved to be no match for the passage of
> time and exposure to
> partially processed Genesee. The bolts let go while
> the new owner was
> attempting to 'rock' his 'hut' free of the ice. At
> full throttle, the
> prototype finally became airborne, for approximately
> 30 seconds. The owner
> was not a pilot, and had immediately pulled the
> throttles back to idle. The
> plane settled onto the ice and slid to a stop after
> side swiping the
> Canadian Coast Guard Icebreaker 'Labrador'. It then
> burst into flames and
> melted through the ice. The owner escaped unhurt.
> What a bitch, eh?
>
> And now you know the rest of the story,
> Bonjour!
> Ronzo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stu" <stuinnh@mvnut.us>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
> <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: 18 August, 2005 07:47
> Subject: [MV] First Canadian Aircraft Carrier
>
>
> > Here is the original picture. Not pretty, but it
> works.
> >
> >
>
http://www.nickscipio.com/funstuff/archive9/2005-07-06_canadiancarrier.html
> >
> >
> >
> > "Stu"
>
>
>
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Capt W
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