From: Nigel Hay MILWEB (nigel@milweb.net)
Date: Wed Aug 24 2005 - 02:32:41 PDT
Interstingly the most common question i was asked at public shows about my
Ward la France, Stuart M3A3 or hafltrack was "how much does it do to the
gallon?" Not how heavy is it or what year. Curious.....
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From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On Behalf
Of Michael Gillman
Sent: 23 August 2005 10:05
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] M35A2 resale values???
That Pacific was stunning wasn't it! It's one of my true dream machines. I
spent a long time talking to the owner - obviously the subject of money came
up and we agreed that if you love your hobby enough you'll pay whatever it
costs. He came from Clermont Ferrand in central France. He had it
low-loadered to Calais, drove onto and off the ferry and then had it
low-loadered up to Beltring. The transport alone must have cost a fortune
but I believe he had a good time.
I spent nearly £1000 on fuel for various trucks and armour that week and
consider it money well spent (and I only live 40 miles away). As the Pacific
owner said, where else is something like that or the Ward seen by people who
actually know what they're looking at?
Did you see the Saturday night WW2 tank convoy around the site? We tagged on
the end of that and I felt quite comforted knowing that I was in the
presence of true gas guzzlers. It helps to gain some perspective on these
things! I also try to remind myself that there are people out there who
restore and fly old aeroplanes - now THAT's an expensive hobby compared to
mine!!!
You guys are really fortunate over there and should enjoy it while it lasts.
Alternative fuels may be the way forward and I'm thinking about converting
the Ward to run on LPG which is becoming increasingly available and is
cheaper (at the moment) than traditional fuels.
In case anyone wonders why I don't complain overly about the fuel prices
here, it's that I consider it to be part of my responsibility as a good
citizen to pay my taxes. I choose to live in this country so I accept the
rules. If we pressurise the government into reducing fuel taxation, they'll
just have to put it onto something else. They need to raise the money
somehow so we'll pay up in the end regardless.
Regards - Mike
From: "Jon Shoop" <shoop19@brick.net>
Reply-To: "Jon Shoop" <shoop19@brick.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>, "Michael
Gillman" <tootallmike@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MV] M35A2 resale values???
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:46:14 -0500
When in the UK a few weeks ago I commented that I thought the guy that had
the M26 was my hero.....after figuring the cost of fuel, the oil he running
on the chains....as he drove around the grounds at Beltring.......expensive!
I also told several people that they should visit the States as due to the
weak dollar, the food and hotels were half price and the gas almost free
here, by comparison......
Jon
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From: Michael Gillman
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] M35A2 resale values???
Dave,
I'm sure Nigel will have more to say, but for my part, those of us in the UK
who are into big trucks regard it as part of the cost of the hobby. It also
has the useful by-product of making big vehicles cheap. My insurance is
cheap (£40/year), road tax is free and I do not have to have the truck
tested. I do all my own work so the only actual cost is the fuel, which is
sadly non-negotiable. 1000miles this year at 4mpg... I just try not to think
about it. If you want to do it, you swallow and pay up. And no, I'm by no
means a millionaire - just passionate about my hobby.
If I paid US fuel prices, I'd use the truck to drive to work because it
would cost the same as my current daily driver here. Enjoy it while it
lasts!
Regards - Mike Gillman
1944 Ward la France
1975 M151A2
!983 F350
1/2 a Scorpion and Sultan
From: MV <MV@dc9.tzo.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Subject: Re: [MV] M35A2 resale values???
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:28:25 -0500
>Nigel,
>
>With the prices of fuel in the UK, who can afford to drive an M35?
>Aren't you paying about $5.00 per gallon now? Is a pleasure trip
>in a UK M35 a 10 kilometer ride?
>
>Dave
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>Nigel Hay MILWEB wrote:
>>Intersting, in Uk the prices of the M35 series range from £3,000
>>-
>>8,000 - and they all come in from Germany.
>>NIGE
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
>>Behalf Of SGM PANTANO
>>Sent: 20 August 2005 22:30
>>To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [MV] M35A2 resale values???
>>
>>
>>
>>I have one of the nicest Deuces in the country...almost in new
>>condition...less than 8,000 miles on it...and would be happy with
>>that
>>$7,000.. Has winch and everything else that is supposed to be
>>there..
>>Gene
>>
>>
>>>It's a good indicator of the resale value of THAT M35.
>>>
>>>The truck seems to be what is advertised. It is a good deal.
>>>
>>
>>
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