Re: [MV] M1009 rear brake lines

From: MV (MV@dc9.tzo.com)
Date: Tue Sep 06 2005 - 12:07:01 PDT


Actually it really has nothing to do with Canada (although that would
seem to make sense). I worked for GM back in the mid 70's to early 80's
at an assembly plant. GM was in the midst of changing totally to a
entirely metric based car and truck system in the mid 70's. Somewhere
along the line I think that they discovered that doing that would cost
extra money in parts. So the entire effort slowed greatly. The result
was that cars and trucks built in the mid to late 70's all the way until
the late 80's and probably even after that, were a mix of metric and
english fasteners. It was and is a real mess IMO. They should have
either converted or not converted IMO, but apparently going half way for
a while was cheaper. It was a real nightmare at the assembly plants for
quite a while.

Dave

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Stu wrote:
> Hi all!
> 1009's were built I believe in Canada using both metric and sae parts. I
> have come across both in my CUCV's.
>
> "Stu"
> Southern NH, USA
> "Live Free Or Die"
>
> MVPA #14790
>
> 1967 M151A1 Jeep 1964 M416 Trailer
> 1985 M1008 CUCV Pickup
>
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> Of MV
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> Subject: Re: [MV] M1009 rear brake lines
>
> I'm pretty sure that your truck uses all standard SAE (US) brake line
> fittings and tubing. In fact I don't know if the American car/truck
> companies ever went to metric fittings on the brakes. My 86 GMC 2 1/2
> ton is all SAE (US) and uses 1/4 and 3/16 steel lines and fittings.
>
> If you aren't sure. Bring in some of your old fittings to NAPA or
> whoever and they will match them up.
>
> FWIW, if you have rusty brake lines, just replace them now as they will
> pop at the worst time. (Generally when you are heavy on the brake
> pedal!) Also, I have seen brake lines that look fine, but beneath those
> metal clips that GM used to hold the lines to the frame, the lines were
> pitted with rust. They typically pop through at the clips.
>
> Dave
>
> Ron wrote:
>
>>Follow up question regarding making your own lines or buying fittings to
>>use or buying double flaring tools....
>> Are the fittings on the M1009 brake lines metric or US something?
>>Same with the wheel cylinders?
>> Since it was made during that weird metrification period where you
>>find both metric and SAE fasteners on GM products and things under the
>>truck are pretty rusty, both types of wrenches/sockets seem to fit
>>interchangeably as the rust flakes off into your eyes....
>> Ron
>>
>>
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