From: Paul Vandervort (pgv@mydb3.com)
Date: Thu Sep 29 2005 - 09:58:03 PDT
apb
Good try, but I checked for water, at least I did the fuel sample
check. I didn't see any water droplets in the bottom of the bottle that
I put about a pint into (I have done/do this quite a bit on corporate
aircraft and piston grinders). Might have been total water that smelled
like gas, but as if I remember correctly, it looked like gas, smelled
like it and evaporated like it. The crawler was garage kept too, and it
was in warm weather so condensation shouldn't played too much into it.
Like I said, it is my Dad's crawler and as cheap as he gets it wouldn't
surprise me if he cut the gas with water (Heheheheee!! ;-@ )
In response to Dan Parmeley and all, I talked to a Harley shop manager
about two years ago. He said Harley had put out a service letter
recommending to not store fuel more that six months. About three months
later they came out with another service letter indicating to not store
fuel more than three months. Word of mouth so take it with a grain of
salt, but I have seen that quality refining process that were all
subject to go bad in three months. Nowadays you really get your money's
worth huh?
MV content: I have a GPW that the gas went bad in. Darn stuff almost
turned into tar on the bottom if the tank. Gas would get in the carb,
atomize and resolidify as tar on the bottom of the intake manifold! What
gas that did get by would loosen the "tar" and allow it to get on the
intake valve stems causing them to stick. THat sucked.
Sorry for being long winded.
Paul Vandervort
MVPA 437
INMVPA 007
MWMVA
KB9PZC
m35products wrote:
> It was gasoline-flavored water that had leaked into, or condensed within,
> the tank. Happens all the time with old equipment that is left outside in
> the weather.
>
> apb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Vandervort" <pgv@mydb3.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Generator - bad gas
>
>
>
>>Here's a good one. My dad has this old Oliver crawler. One day he
>>couldnt get it running. I finally got a chance to take a look at it. It
>>had gas, spark, air but wouldnt run at all. I took the mag apart,
>>checked the carb, looked at everything. Gas smelled fine too. After
>>about 2-3 hours of checking EVERYTHING three times I took a wild shot at
>>the gas. Poured some on a rag and put a lighter to it and it would NOT
>>burn at all! Smelled like gas, looked like gas (yes fresh gas), but
>>would not burn at all. I have never seen anything like it.
>>
>>
>>PauL Vandervort
>>MVPA 437
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>MV wrote:
>>
>>>I have a number of vehicles and occassionally I will get a batch of gas
>>>that is simply too bad to burn in a particular car or truck. I have had
>>>good luck putting the bad gas into cans and feeding it into my forklift
>>>and Case gas tractor by mixing it with fresh gas - half bad/half good.
>>>Both the forklift and the Case tractor have low compression engines -
>>>like 6:1 and it doesn't seem to bother them much at all.
>>>
>>>Sooner or later the government is going to realize that having gas that
>>>goes bad in a month or two does have some national ramifications.
>>>Especially if it can't be stored for emergency situations.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>Ed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>That is a great site! My reasons for wanting to convert is that the
>>>>propane
>>>>does not require anything special to store it. As far as I know it
>
> never
>
>>>>goes bad like gas or diesel does and while it may put out a smaller
>>>>amount
>>>>of power for running my well and most of my inside electrical items it
>>>>should do just fine. I have a military 10kw genset that I found is
>
> more
>
>>>>like a 20kw due to the power it puts out! I turned on everything in
>
> our
>
>>>>house to include the central A/C and it handled the load with a 75%
>
> load
>
>>>>showing on the load meter on the genset!! I highly recommend it for
>>>>emergency use. Here in upstate South Carolina it's mostly for ice
>
> storms
>
>>>>that knock out power for several days at a time. We have a large wood
>>>>burning fireplace so heat isn't a problem but having backup power sure
>
> is
>
>>>>nice!
>>>>
>>>>I wired it into the main wiring using a double throw, double pole
>>>>transfer
>>>>switch to prevent powering the lines and killing some lineman that
>
> thinks
>
>>>>that the line he is about to touch is dead!! Our setup was inspected
>
> and
>
>>>>approved by our power company and in fact was shown in one of their
>>>>monthly
>>>>magazines a few years ago. I have a 250 gas tank to fuel it but even
>>>>though
>>>>I use Stabile the gas will still go bad after a couple of years. I
>
> have
>
>>>>about 50 gallons right now that is crap. I have to drain it and try
>>>>to get
>>>>it into shape for the mower or something. At the price gas is now I'm
>>>>not
>>>>about to throw it out!
>>>>
>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: <Recovry4x4@aol.com>
>>>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 13:10
>>>>Subject: Re: [MV] Generator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.propane-generators.com/military-surplus-generators.htm
>>>>>
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