From: MV (MV@dc9.tzo.com)
Date: Wed Nov 09 2005 - 06:43:09 PST
Well since we are talking about possible liabilities associated with
purchasing stuff. I need to say one more thing. I recently purchased a
sailboat which was at a marina. The cost was about $3500 and I used a
cashiers check. I got the title first and then handed him the cashiers
check. I thought I was set. I later walked into the marina office and
told them that I was the new owner of the sailboat. They then asked me
if I was going to pay the past due storage bill, uh........ for $1100.00!
The previous owner had told the marina owner that he would pay after he
deposited my check. The marina owner told me he would not lift the
sailboat without full payment. Ever try to move a 29 foot sailboat -
8500 lbs, full keel, with a 45 foot mast anywhere without a travelift?
Won't happen.
So basically I was left with a sailboat I could not use if the seller
did not come through. Bad place to be. I asked, called, and almost
threatened the seller with a lawsuit if he did not come through. Three
weeks later he did.
Be warned that if you buy an MV left at a storage lot, you could be in
exactly the same situation. I won't forget this lesson.
Dave
Sonny Heath wrote:
> I bought a used alternator for my CUCV a few weeks ago and sent the man
> a check. I thought he would send the item on after he got the check and
> saw what it said on the left top but he wouldn't. I needed the item
> real bad but had to wait on the check to clear on his end. He was
> right, there is no more trust and for good reason because of scumbags
> who make it bad for the honest guy.
>
> Sonny
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Horrocks, Aaron" <ACHb@pge.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Protecting Yourself from Counterfit Checks
>
>
> Thieves have ALWAYS been sophisticated, and on the forefront of
> technology. (minus the stupid ones. And there's lots of those.) Not only
> do they usually have the best weapons, which is even more present with
> modern "gun control" laws that severely limits what everyone BUT the bad
> guys have... but they have the funds for the newest hitech toys. There's
> lots of advantages to not following the laws ya know!
>
> Go back to the wild west even; the best of the best hacked into the
> brand new telegraph systems and exploited it. The History channel had a
> show where train robbers posed as the bank keepers via telegraph and
> claimed to have lost the keys to the safe. They requested that the safe
> be transported unlocked. Certainly made that train a breeze to rob.
>
> That's not so MV-related, so here: I've bought stuff of this list, some
> of it rather expensive, and it's always been smooth. I've paid with
> check, and I'm pretty sure every time the guy's waited for the check to
> clear. Takes something like 10 days. =/
>
> Aaron Horrocks
> Sr. Electrical Engineering Estimator
> Livermore Office
> achb@pge.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
> Behalf Of Mark W
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:04 AM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] Protecting Yourself from Counterfit Checks
>
> The thieves are getting so sophisticated now days, that a normal person
> can't keep up with all the techniques they use. I once had a guy who
> wanted to wire money, but something about the guy made me nervous.
> Sometimes you have to go on your instincts.
> Wouldn't it be risky to give a stranger your bank routing info?
>
> Thanks for the info.
> Mark
>
> --- Mark Contractor <markeoffice@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Go with cash or a bank transfer.
>> Consider using Pay Pal like they do on Ebay.
>>
>> Or call the bank that the cashiers check is drawn on.
>> Check up on the bona fides, yourself.
>> Don't accept a call from what the buyer says is his bank, unless you
>> know the phone number of the bank ahead of time and have caller i.d.
>>
>> I am still sweating a cashiers check that I took.
>> My bank said they "thought" it looked good.
>> I hate to lose $7000 on the oppinion of a $8/hour teller.
>>
>> I did give it a week before I allowed the new owner to pick up.
>>
>> If you have any doubts, take cash. But run the $100s thru a currency
>> sorter at the bank. They could be bogus, too. A good Cummins Allison
>> currency sorter can detect counterfeit bills.
>>
>> Mark W <mnm3693234@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I'm in the process of selling a truck and would like to know how to
>> protect myself from fake cashier's checks or money orders, etc. What
>> I'm dealing with is in the $7000 range. In the past I usually insist
>> on cash, but I always run in the question of checks. Is there a way to
>
>
>> protect yourself? Can a bank determine up front if the check is valid.
>
>
>> I had once heard that even if it is a cashier check, the bank I
>> deposit it, still wants a few days to see if it clears.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
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