From: Ron (rojoha@adelphia.net)
Date: Thu Dec 29 2005 - 08:38:39 PST
Hi Ryan.
English please...
C&R-FFL?
Positing that Grandpa ain't hauling a gooseneck into the RV park and
What's this "We" crap Kimosabee? I don't deal with GL. Period.
Your last paragraph leaves me scratching my head because I don't
Back 2 U
buying lawn chairs and Avon stuff from the other happy campers at a 'good'
price and then reselling the stuff at home. Which is why most communities
have ordinances against more than 2 yard sales a year at any one address
because sometimes Grandma don't see a problem with blowing out the 28,000
beanie babies she collected over the years along with the weekly
neighborhood trash pickings Grampa collects each Tuesday morning during his
0600 Neighborhood Watch patrol.
I buy my surplus crap at meets and through eBay. As you may have noticed
from my posts, I don't suffer fools gladly. I don't think it will be long
before 'Going Postal' gets modified to 'Going GL'. And you obviously haven't
met my wife, whose answer would be "YES, throw it away...., or better yet,
don't buy it in the first place".
And, to open another can of worms on the list, the local code
enforcement officer and the neighbors would agree.
And BTW you state "We all go through GL sales. the nature of the
Collecting business means we'll get a batch of crap we don't need in order
to get one out of the whole lot. What are we supposed to do, throw it away?"
The nature of collecting means buying what you need to complete your
collection. The nature of the collecting BUSINESS means buying to resell for
a profit, hence the word BUSINESS "a commercial or industrial enterprise and
the people who constitute it, such as "a small mom-and-pop business". And
GL sells Dingo and Ferret parts?
remember Sonny offering any guns for sale in his offerings but I'm not all
that up on gun terms. I thought that the M37s he was offering were trucks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Gill" <rmgill@mindspring.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: 29 December, 2005 10:51
Subject: Re: [MV] Excess Stuff
At 10:09 AM -0500 12/29/05, Ron wrote:
>Hi Sonny...
>
> And there is no way in hell the items you are selling ever spent time
> on a trailer behind your RV or IN your RV, right? Not under a seat or in
> the bathroom or even in the middle of the floor. Nothing ever gets bought
> at a meet you attended with the RV Toter, correct?
>
> From your post of 24 DEC 05 Titled "Truck Turned Recreation Vehicle"
> you stated " I'm strictly a collector of motorscooters, motorcycles, old
> farm tractors, and military vehicles among other things too numerous to go
> in to. I do not sell anything at the shows I attend, I only exibit for
> free. I do not ask for nor would I accept donations just to make myself
> clear on that."
>
> But you don't state that you never BUY stuff at meets that you resell
> from home. Which you wouldn't do, because that WOULD BE commerce,
> wouldn't it?
If the bloody ATF doesn't mind C&R-FFLs buying
and selling the odd rifle (as long as they're not
trying to make a business of it) then occasional
purchases and sales if reported as normal income
aren't business.
Or are you positing that the first time a very
conventional Grandpa & Grandma Itasca Motorhome
owner sells something at an RV park he's for ever
considered Commercial?
>
> Again, you state " I'm strictly a collector of motorscooters,
> motorcycles, old farm tractors, and military vehicles among other
> things..." ONE used HMMWV hood for sale indicates a collector getting rid
> of excess junk collected in the pursuit of the hobby. 6 used HMMWV hoods,
> HMMWV Transfer Case take outs Several, Silicone Brake Fluid 12 ea.
> $25.00 ea gal. for sale indicate a .... what?
We all go through GL sales. the nature of the
Collecting business means we'll get a batch of
crap we don't need in order to get one out of the
whole lot. What are we supposed to do, throw it
away?
> I'm just a little cranky about the protestations of the folks in the
> hobby who claim they NEVER try to make back a modicum of money off of the
> junk we buy and sell. If you just BUY, you're a collector. If you
> occasionally sell something you bought because you no longer have a use
> for it, you're human. If you buy and sell stuff to make a profit and claim
> to the whole world you don't, that would make you a four letter word that
> rhymes with buyer!
Again, C&R-FFLs can sell their arms. They just
can't start a business. If the ATF who's woefully
problematic for the people they regulate, then I
suspect Sonny's probably just fine.
-- -- Ryan Gill
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