From: MV (MV@dc9.tzo.com)
Date: Sat Jan 07 2006 - 11:55:19 PST
Are shotguns not used or allowed in close quarters work in Iraq?
Dave
Cliff S wrote:
> Ohhh, now your all gonna get me going again for whats "used out here"
> and "what kind of armor is on what trucks" kick again arent
> we...........anyone remember the armor battle last year?????
>
> Weapons..........NONE ARE ALLOWED BUT WHAT IS ISSUED TO THE SOLDIER (OR
> MARINE). PERIOD. If you are caught with anything else, its a violation
> of Geneva Convention rules. Same rules apply to Ammo. If it aint
> issued, it aint good. (legally).
>
> I know that is not the question you asked, but just to cover myself
> BEFORE it gets said.
>
> Now, as for the question........He is a driver of a 30,000 lb, 16ft
> tall, 6 wheel drive- go anywhere truck......It is a bunker on wheels, it
> is the safest place to be, as is the Hummer that I drive here. I would
> rather be stuck inside it, than tramping around trying to make a fight.
> I will take my 9,500 lb bunker to fight him!!!! As long as he (your
> son) is inside it, he has no need for any weapon attachments.
>
> Lets see what I have, and I will tell you how I feel about
> them.......92F Baretta, I think its a "good" weapon, but definitely not
> a "knockdown" weapon......so I am a better shot with it, to make them
> stick in the right parts of the badguys. FMJ rounds dont help either.
>
> M16A4.....another decent weapon, definitely NOT big enough caliber. FMJ
> rounds just bounce off stuff. I have a High Watt Flashlight on it,
> great for telling the enemy where I am, visible for miles.....I have a
> AimPoint sight for it, great in point-and-shoot scenarios. Terrible for
> any aimed shots. Though I can get a 3 inch group at 300 yards, but then
> again I havent been in a firefight making groups like that either.
> Point and shoot is about all the AimPoint is good for, house to house is
> great, but then again its a long weapon, pistol is used for Houses. I
> have a PEQ-4 (?) lazer/night sight on it also. Great if your using
> night vision, shows a direct lazer to the target, great for a
> point-and-shoot again, but not a real accurate piece either. All sights
> have to be adjusted for them to work properly, and maintained for proper
> accuracy. I talk about accuracy for a reason. We beat our weapons up,
> even as nice as I care for mine, its does get more wear than anything
> you can imagine being put in a gun case and in the trunk/backseat/or
> rack in your auto, its still gonna get knocked about, and out of sight
> allignment.
>
> But back to your question. Whats allowed........Almost anything is
> allowed, considering your gonna be buying it, if you have the cash go
> ahead and get anything. But he will get some stuff out here, so you may
> just want to wait it out and see what is given to him first. All of
> mine is issued. We have a few Holographic sights with us, we have
> scopes, we have some pretty good gear, if that is what you like. Also
> depends on the shooter, How good is your son with a M16???? If he cant
> shoot in the first place, it aint gonna help him. If he is a good shot
> he may just prefer the Iron sights and what he knows.......who knows.
>
> Recommendations........Anything is better than nothing.......back to the
> allowed question......remember, your buying it.
>
> I think the only thing I would get is a lazer for my M9, I have seen
> them and they are nice, grip mounted lazer.
>
> I hope this helps and doesnt confuse you.
>
> SSGT SMITH CN
> USMC MITT, 1ST BN, 3RD BDE, 7TH DIV
> NUMANIYAH
> APO AE 09331
>
> M880, M274A5, 6K GenSet
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Carl & Kathy Cundy" <mistymtn@gwtc.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Subject: Re: [MV] OFF TOPIC (MV)USMC M16 "enhancements" allowed ??
> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:07:52 -0700
>
> From: "Carl & Kathy Cundy" <mistymtn@gwtc.net>
> To: <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Subject: RE:OFF TOPIC (MV)
>
>
>> Hello -- My son deploys to Iraq as a "7 ton" driver
>> in Feb '06. Does anyone have experience with
>> adding "enhancements" (lazer - lights - scope)
>> to their M16? What's allowed? Reccomendations?
>
>
>> I know just enough to get me in trouble (never
>> in service). I kinda like these two lazer setups.
>
>
> http://www.diamondbacktactical.com/Crimson-Trace-Laser-GripsFits-AR-15-P1121C122.aspx
>
> http://botac.com/itim6xtalila.html
>
>> Thanks for any advice or experiences you have.
>
>
> "MISTYMTN" (SD)
> NEAR ELLSWORTH AFB & MT.RUSHMORE
>
> '05 MARINE (MY SON)
> '70 M35-A2 (JEEP)
> '54 M215 (GMC)
> '54 M211 (GMC)
> '52 M135 (GMC)
> '51 M44 (REO)
> '53 M105-A1
> '67 M ?? (TOOL OUTFIT)
>
>
>
>
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