From: Frank Robertson (froberts@midsouth.rr.com)
Date: Wed Jan 18 2006 - 19:13:26 PST
Has anybody talked to the MVPA? If so what is their reply?
Robertson Sniper Restorations Webpage Link
http://home.midsouth.rr.com/w2sniper
-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On Behalf
Of Glen Closson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:05 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] Kansas denied ALL armored vehicle registrations, its time
to do something now MVPA
Hi Dave,
Have you contacted the MVPA?
Regards,
Glen Closson
-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On Behalf
Of Dave Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:08 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: [MV] Kansas denied ALL armored vehicle registrations, its time to
do something now
Hi group. I am a new member and owner of a ferret. I have been fighting to
get it licenses here in the state of Kansas. below is a copy from an email
composed by a fellow ferret owner that has been of great help to me in
getting it registered. I suggest you all read it, as it concerns everyone
with this mans decision.
I have scanned copies of the letter and "policy" in .pdf format that I can
email you if you wish.
_____________________________________________________________________
Please read this information. The State of Kansas has declared no more
armored vehicles may be licensed there. I have no idea how this will impact
those already licensed - maybe they will have their licenses rescinded or
not renewed. It is a very dangerous situation of other owners if this
catches on in other states.
Ian Wallace
MVPA #20862
-----Original Message-----
From: Ferret-heaven@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ferret- heaven@yahoogroups.com]
@yahoogro [mailto:Ferret- heaven@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Ian Wallace
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:05 PM
To: Ferret-heaven@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Ferret-heaven] Kansas Licensing
The State of Kansas has provided me with a "official"
copy of a
policy declaring a Ferret, and everything else armored, unfit for licensing
in Kansas. First the letter from Mr. Moser:
Dear Mr. Wallace,
Enclosed you will find a copy of the Director of Vehicles Declaration
regarding the registration of privately owned armored military combat
vehicles you requested. In view of the lawful declaration issued by the
director, the Division of Vehicles considers this matter closed and no
further correspondence will be responded to. Thank you for you interest and
attention.
Sincerely, Mathew H. Moser, Manager, Titles and Registrations Bureau,
Division of Vehicles
Now we have the policy. The emphasis is mine!
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE, DIVIS ION OF VEHICLES
POLICY DECLARATION 06-01
PRIVATELY OWNED SURPLUS ARMORED MILITARY COMBAT VEHICLES
Whereas armored military combat vehicles are not manufactured or intended
for general transportation purposes or use by the public on public reads and
includes: tanks, half-tracks, armored personnel carriers, self-propelled
artillery and armored anti-tank or scout vehicles.
Whereas privately owned surplus armored military combat vehicles are not
manufactured with proper safety equipment and pose a traffic hazard if
operated on public roads.
Whereas privately owned surplus armored military combat vehicles are
dedicated weapons of war with no private adaptable civilian purpose.
Whereas privately owned surplus armored military combat vehicles are a cause
of concern for law enforcement and homeland security.
Whereas the Division of Vehicles is to exercise administrative functions and
authority for the development of vehicle registration policy.
NOW THEREFORE pursuant to K.S.A. 8-127(a), and the authority vested in me as
the Director of Vehicles, I declare it shall be the policy of the Division
of Vehicles not to permit privately owned surplus armored military combat
vehicles application for registration. Any operation of privately owned
surplus military combat vehicles on public roads shall be in accordance with
the provisions of K.S.A. 8-
2002(a)(3) and under the regulation of local authorities permitting or
prohibiting processions or assemblages on the highways.
I hereby direct the Titles and Registrations Bureau to make available copies
of this policy to all county and state motor vehicle offices and personnel
charged with the administration of motor vehicle registrations. This policy
declaration shall be filed at the Titles and Registrations Bureau and is
effective November 18, 2005.
Signed: Carmen Aldrett, Director of Motor Vehicles
Now some observations. First, Mr. Moser is getting tired of the pressure,
and won't respond any more. Little does he know that others will be in
contact.
Second, look carefully at the policy. It is Policy #06-01. Perhaps the
Division of Motor Vehicles thinks that we are all dummies, and that they can
pull one over on us. I am willing to bet 00DC81 that this policy was entered
into official Kansas records NO EARLIER than the date that my letter
requesting the written policy arrived. That would be around the first few
days of January. Their policy numbers relate to 1) the year of issuance, and
2) the sequential number of the policy. I am positive that this policy was
not created back on November 18th as stated in both the policy and the hand
written same date on the policy by the Director. THERE WAS NO POLICY IN
2005. THIS WAS THE FIRST POLICY CREATED IN 2006, #06-1
The language of the policy is also very disturbing.
Note
that "homeland security" is mentioned. Well, read it for yourself. This is a
very, very dangerous policy if allowed to stand. There was no mention of the
name of their legal advisor that I asked for. I guess we will have to find
that out ourselves.
I will also post this to other military lists. Copies have been sent to Mr.
McManus (Consumer Affairs Advocate) at Hagerty Insurance and the MVPA Board
of Directors.
So now begins the fight!
Dave Thomas
fortitudine vincimus
"Through endurance we conquer"
913-219-3179
1956 Daimler Ferret
02 BB 68
MVPA 29221
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