RE: BAR

From: Henry Fackovec (hfackovec@easternems.com)
Date: Thu Feb 02 2006 - 07:12:29 PST


I have in my collection a russian/Chineese rifle, (chicomm?? Maybe),
that was brought back by my ex brother in law a Air Force Security
Policeman at Ton Su nut <sp?>, it has official papers authorizing him to
hand carry it back to the states, if anyone is interested I can find the
papers and scan them.

>From talking to him, he told me that they had some "unofficial"
Thompsons that they carried in the back 40, If I recall correctly, he
told me they had to barter with the Army guys for .45 APC rounds,
because their issue sidearms were .38 special wheel guns.

It is a pitty tht he died about a year ago, very smart, very weird, but
a good collector.

Best, Hankie

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Subject: Re: [MV] BAR

I didn't catch this entire thread, but ...

I missed the Vietnam draft by a year, but a lot of my older friends did
not. One guy who I knew quite well (I was in his wedding) did several
tours of Vietnam. He once told me that it was almost standard practice
to toss your issued weapon under the tank tracks so you could be issued
a replacement - which was much better. I don't recall what he tossed
and what he got after destroying his issued weapon - but he said the
original issue weapons jammed a lot - enough to be considered junk by
the troops. He said swapping weapons was very common in Vietnam and
almost considered necessary by front line troops.

I believe he also got some weapons out of Vietnam when he came back -
but I don't recall how. He collected guns until his death about 5 years

after getting out.

Dave

SGM PANTANO wrote:
> I know it was NOT legal.. But.. I was NAVY..and friends who were
> BEES...and
> were headed "in-country". I found a way to send along extra weapons
for
> them.. Once in-country -- they simply said they "acquired" the weapon
there.
> I can remember at least 5 weapons that went there under cover.. None
were
> found -- ALL were used well while there.. ALL had to be left
there..Sadly -
> 17 - yes ---seventeen .. M1911-A1 .45 automatics were coming home for
me..
> The SEABEE that was hauling them for me..was PCS'd and could not come
home
> as planned........ Darned -- the weapons were not discovered where
they
> were -- and to this day -- they may still be there....
> Anyone here from ACU-1 ????
>
> Gene
>
>
>
>>That's a fact, you could not bring personal weapons with you. A lot
>>of people did and they even had them sent over IN THE MAIL! Try that
>>today! All of the weapons that I spoke of were issued by the military
>>in country. What made you think of that statement?
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>
>>Ed
>>
>
>
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