Re: history - WWI 1917 German sub sinks U.S. passenger ship California

From: Rick v100 (rickv100@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Feb 06 2006 - 12:12:05 PST

No Jack, just that no one is innocent when it comes to
warfare and assuming that we are innocent is naieve at
best.

It has already been proven by historical record that
the liners were carrying munitions to Europe in
violation of US trade law.

It was proven after WWI that the US munitions makers
played a large role in getting the US involved in WW1
as well as British propagandists. Funny how they
omitted the weapons mounts on the Lusitania and the
muntions stored on board in the newspaper accounts of
the sinking.

Why do you think that the US population did not want
to get involved in WW2 and was so isolationist, once
bitten twice shy applied.

I am not liberal I just don't believe that we are
lilly white.

Rick

--- Jack Lee <milveh@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> Rick, you always seem so quick to find fault with
> America (absent any
> facts), whats your problem?
>
> Here we have a civilian passenger vessel sunk by a
> U-boat, innocent lives
> lost and you turn it around and say they were
> probably carrying munititions
> to Europe so its America's fault? lol Man, that's
> just plain bullsh-- and
> I am getting sick of liberals like you finding fault
> with America.
>
> By the way, for the rest of you guys...here is a
> great site that gives
> incredible insight into the life a WWII German
> sub...
>
> http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-515INT.htm
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick v100" <rickv100@yahoo.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
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> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 5:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] history - WWI 1917 German sub
> sinks U.S. passenger ship
> California
>
>
> > Probably was carrying war material to Europe
> despite
> > the Neutrality Act.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > --- Everette <194cbteng@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> >> February 6
> >>
> >> 1917 German sub sinks U.S. passenger ship
> California
> >> Just three days after U.S. President Woodrow
> >> Wilson's speech of February 3,
> >> 1917-in which he broke diplomatic relations with
> >> Germany and warned that war
> >> would follow if American interests at sea were
> again
> >> assaulted-a German
> >> submarine torpedoes and sinks the Anchor Line
> >> passenger steamer California
> >> off the Irish coast.
> >>
> >> The explosion of the torpedo was so violent and
> >> devastating that the
> >> 470-foot, 9,000-ton steamer sank just nine
> minutes
> >> after the attack. Despite
> >> desperate S.O.S. calls sent by the crew to ensure
> >> the arrival of rescue
> >> ships, 38 people drowned after the initial
> >> explosion, for a total of 43
> >> dead.
> >> This type of blatant German defiance of Wilson's
> >> warning about the
> >> consequences of unrestricted submarine warfare
> >> drove Wilson and the United
> >> States to take the final steps towards war. On
> April
> >> 2, Wilson went before
> >> Congress to deliver his war message; the formal
> >> declaration of U.S. entrance
> >> into the First World War came four days later.
> >>
> >> Everette
> >> Deo adiuvante
> >>
> >>
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