From: Alan Wise (awise1@cinci.rr.com)
Date: Mon Feb 06 2006 - 12:17:13 PST
It may be worth mentioning to everyone that Everette is incorrect on a major
point; the steamer "California", sunk in 1917 off the Irish coast was a
BRITISH Anchor Liner ship and had nothing to do with the US.
> No Jack, just that no one is innocent when it comes to
> warfare and assuming that we are innocent is naieve at
> best.
>
> It has already been proven by historical record that
> the liners were carrying munitions to Europe in
> violation of US trade law.
>
> It was proven after WWI that the US munitions makers
> played a large role in getting the US involved in WW1
> as well as British propagandists. Funny how they
> omitted the weapons mounts on the Lusitania and the
> muntions stored on board in the newspaper accounts of
> the sinking.
>
> Why do you think that the US population did not want
> to get involved in WW2 and was so isolationist, once
> bitten twice shy applied.
>
> I am not liberal I just don't believe that we are
> lilly white.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> --- Jack Lee <milveh@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>> Rick, you always seem so quick to find fault with
>> America (absent any
>> facts), whats your problem?
>>
>> Here we have a civilian passenger vessel sunk by a
>> U-boat, innocent lives
>> lost and you turn it around and say they were
>> probably carrying munititions
>> to Europe so its America's fault? lol Man, that's
>> just plain bullsh-- and
>> I am getting sick of liberals like you finding fault
>> with America.
>>
>> By the way, for the rest of you guys...here is a
>> great site that gives
>> incredible insight into the life a WWII German
>> sub...
>>
>> http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-515INT.htm
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick v100" <rickv100@yahoo.com>
>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
>> <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 5:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MV] history - WWI 1917 German sub
>> sinks U.S. passenger ship
>> California
>>
>>
>>> Probably was carrying war material to Europe
>> despite
>>> the Neutrality Act.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Everette <194cbteng@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> February 6
>>>>
>>>> 1917 German sub sinks U.S. passenger ship
>> California
>>>> Just three days after U.S. President Woodrow
>>>> Wilson's speech of February 3,
>>>> 1917-in which he broke diplomatic relations with
>>>> Germany and warned that war
>>>> would follow if American interests at sea were
>> again
>>>> assaulted-a German
>>>> submarine torpedoes and sinks the Anchor Line
>>>> passenger steamer California
>>>> off the Irish coast.
>>>>
>>>> The explosion of the torpedo was so violent and
>>>> devastating that the
>>>> 470-foot, 9,000-ton steamer sank just nine
>> minutes
>>>> after the attack. Despite
>>>> desperate S.O.S. calls sent by the crew to ensure
>>>> the arrival of rescue
>>>> ships, 38 people drowned after the initial
>>>> explosion, for a total of 43
>>>> dead.
>>>> This type of blatant German defiance of Wilson's
>>>> warning about the
>>>> consequences of unrestricted submarine warfare
>>>> drove Wilson and the United
>>>> States to take the final steps towards war. On
>> April
>>>> 2, Wilson went before
>>>> Congress to deliver his war message; the formal
>>>> declaration of U.S. entrance
>>>> into the First World War came four days later.
>>>>
>>>> Everette
>>>> Deo adiuvante
>>>>
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