From: Sonny Heath (sonny@defuniak.com)
Date: Tue Feb 14 2006 - 17:23:17 PST
and we can definitely tell them whether or not to buy a CDL as well as
advice on stopping at chicken koops, errr, weigh stations.
Couldn't resist that one TJ
Sonny
----- Original Message -----
From: "V SCHWARTZ" <vsaws@optonline.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] This is why
>I would think that if wubba's boys are monitoring this list , then maybe
>they are picking up on some good info that they could actually use.
>Especially useful would be hints on how to deal with the Froggs. TJ' kind
>sumations on Yuppies et al. and we certainly can help with any problems
>about carc radios with five ton stering wheels. Vinny
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick v100" <rickv100@yahoo.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] This is why
>
>
>> This came up prior to the Bushies taking office. The
>> NSA Echelon project probably has us on the listening
>> list because of the continual talk about military
>> subjects.
>>
>> Figure if we have one overseas list member then the
>> traffic is going to route overseas and it has been
>> proven several times that it is very easy to change
>> the route that packets of computer data take to put
>> them either inside or outside the US jurisdiction for
>> surveillance purposes.
>>
>> If you want private communications then start
>> encrypting your messages.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> --- MV <MV@dc9.tzo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The Bush crew has already admitted to using
>>> widespread unauthorized wire
>>> taps to monitor overseas conversations. If they
>>> don't need to get
>>> authorization to do that, do you think they need
>>> anything to monitor the
>>> airwaves, this email list, etc. After all this
>>> email list stuff goes
>>> overseas also, as do a lot of amateur radio
>>> transmissions.
>>>
>>> I make phone calls overseas once in a while, so
>>> according the Bush, the
>>> NSA can listen in on my conversations at will. So
>>> does that mean they
>>> can also point a parabolic dish at my house windows
>>> and listen in on
>>> conversations between myself and my wife and
>>> daughters?? Hey, why not??
>>> I could be a threat right?
>>>
>>> I am also involved in foreign commerce and I deal
>>> primarily with foreign
>>> made equipment that most people do not understand at
>>> all. More black
>>> marks.
>>>
>>> If you guys don't think that we are on the "list" to
>>> monitor as a
>>> possible "threat", then you are not listening to the
>>> news.
>>>
>>> Indiana and Kansas apparenlty think that the MVs we
>>> own could be a
>>> possible threat. What else do you like to do that
>>> makes you a suspect??
>>> Collect knives? Have a subscription to a gun
>>> magazine? Wear a camo
>>> cap once in a while? Bought more than one box of
>>> ammo in the last year?
>>> Own other "non-conforming" vehicles?
>>>
>>> This is a very slipperly slope we are on right now.
>>> We don't exactly
>>> fit in with the mainstream. To actually own an MV
>>> automatically labels
>>> us as non-comformists. So "we" are targets.
>>>
>>> If this makes you uncomfortable, sell your MV and
>>> buy a 2006 Beige Camry
>>> sedan and start hanging out at Walmart and watch at
>>> least 4 hours of
>>> mind numbing TV per night. That might take you off
>>> the list for a while.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> Jack Lee wrote:
>>> >> "E-06-49788600234834 12 FEB 2006 10:47:33 EST
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> LEE, (email milveh@dslextreme.com) You are hereby
>>> notified, pursuant
>>> >> to the Federal Communications Act
>>> >> of 1974, 11.4 and Title 1, Section 7 USC, be
>>> advised your electronic
>>> >> transmissions between the group/s 1.
>>> >milveh@milveh.org and 2. John
>>> >> Does numbered one (1) through one thousand
>>> (1000), have been
>>> >> intercepted >by the authority granted in law and
>>> pursuant to, Title 1
>>> >> Section 7.1a, b, d, and e, USC, Federal
>>> Information and >Security Act
>>> >> (FISA) on behalf of the Homeland Security
>>> Administration in
>>> >> cooperation with the Federal Bureau >of
>>> Investigation.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Now, how would you guys like to get one of these
>>> little notices, eh?
>>> > Of course, this is just made up to grab your
>>> attention. But, my point
>>> > is, this is really not-so-far fetched example (in
>>> keeping with the
>>> > times) of what "could" happen...IF we start taking
>>> our liberty for granted.
>>> >
>>> > Somewhere, somehow, people in France let their
>>> government get beyond
>>> > their control, first, they lost their gun rights
>>> and now they are losing
>>> > their old military vehicles and that means a
>>> portion of their property
>>> > rights are at risk. This latest situation might
>>> seem trivial to most
>>> > who could care less about our hobby, but the
>>> overall implications run
>>> > pretty deep.
>>> >
>>> > This French Constitution, says, and this is for
>>> real: " Its principle
>>> > is government of the people, by the people, and
>>> for the people." Sound
>>> > familiar Yanks? But, there's a few people in
>>> France who just can't take
>>> > this part seriously anymore. And if this part is
>>> meaningless for them
>>> > (MV'ers), what's next... for the others?
>>> >
>>> > We better take notice and never, never let this
>>> happen in America
>>> > because the ripples go beyond just old military
>>> vehicles. Thats my duex
>>> > centimes worth...
>>> >
>>> > Jack
>>> >
>>> >
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