From: Wayne Harris (papercu@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Feb 19 2006 - 02:11:22 PST
Not Really. While none of us know the details of his transaction with his
seller, Ebay does have a way for the non-winning high bidder in a Reserve
auction to complete the deal under Ebay rules.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/personal-offer.html
A Second Chance Offer lets you use Buy It Now to purchase an item you didn’t
win at the price you bid.
A seller can make a Second Chance Offer to a non-winning bidder when:
A reserve price auction ends without the reserve price being met and the
seller choose to offer the item to a non-winning bidder
Second Chance Offer sales are covered by eBay services. Under the eBay
Standard Purchase Protection Program, most items on eBay are covered for up
to $200 (minus $25 of the item price
But as you see the insurance would only cover 200 (175.00) dollars of the
purchase price and because he went to pick it up Paypal would have been no
help either (if he had paid that way). Wayne
>From: Arthur Bloom <m35prod@optonline.net>
>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Subject: Re: [MV] Jeeps near Petersburg, VA
>Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 23:24:30 -0500
>
>They certainly have a vested interest in keeping their transactions within
>the system. But the after-auction offer leaves the potential buyer with
>absolutely no protection. The Ebay fee is paid by the seller, and turns out
>to be good insurance for the buyer.
>
>IMHO
>
>apb
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dan Maguire" <dmaguire@mchsi.com>
>To: "Arthur Bloom" <m35prod@optonline.net>
>Cc: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 6:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [MV] Jeeps near Petersburg, VA
>
>
>| Was that deal "outside the box?" He was the high bidder but didn't meet
>| reserve. The seller and he (i.e., the winner) reached a satisfactory
>| price. Isn't that the way it is supposed to go? I thought so but now
>| am not so sure.
>|
>| Unrelated... I always thought that Ebay warned against outside deals
>| because they want to profit from every sales transaction in the galaxy.
>|
>| BR,
>| Dan
>| Auburn, IN
>|
>| Arthur Bloom wrote:
>|
>| > Yup. Ebay expressly warns about trying to make a deal outside the box.
>This
>| > is probably why.
>| >
>| > apb
>| >
>| > ----- Original Message -----
>| > From: <MPop5555@aol.com>
>| > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>| > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:38 AM
>| > Subject: [MV] Jeeps near Petersburg, VA
>| >
>| >
>| > | Anyone deal with a guy by the name of Nick who has a bunch of Jeeps
>in
>| > | Petersburg, VA? Well, I have and I never will again!
>| > |
>| > | Recently, he posted an M38A1/CJ5 on EBay. I bid on it and although
>the
>| > | reserve wasn't met, I was the high bidder. I made an offer and we
>agreed
>| > on a
>| > | price for a running Jeep with mostly everything intact. All he said
>he
>| > wanted to
>| > | remove were the seats and put in different ones.
>| > |
>| > | Well, I drove 200 miles out of my way in my Unimog, hauling a 30'
>trailer
>| > and
>| > | an M105A1 to pick up the M38A1. When I got there, the Jeep had been
>| > stripped
>| > | of just about any useful part off of the tub, including the
>windshield
>| > (which
>| > | was clearly visible in the EBay auction). Not only that but the
>motor
>was
>| > | NOT running! It was missing the starter, fan, belts, air cleaner
>housing,
>| > and a
>| > | bunch of other stuff.
>| > |
>| > | This idiot then tried to convince me that the Jeep ran! He gave me
>his
>| > | personal guarantee that it ran! (without major components) When I
>asked
>| > him to
>| > | knock the price down because the Jeep obviously did not run when I
>came to
>| > see
>| > | it, he said he was already taking a beating since he paid too much
>for
>it
>| > | himself.
>| > |
>| > | This idiot tried to pull a fast one so I thought I would warn the MV
>| > | community about him.
>| > |
>| > | Thanks for the bandwidth,
>| > |
>| > | Mike Pop
>| > | 1987 Unimog U1300L
>| > | 1969 Unimog S404.1
>| > | 1952 M38A1
>| > | 1966 German Winch Trailer
>| > | 1970 M105A2 Unimog Camper
>| > | 1970 M127 Semi Trailer
>| > | Eureka, NV
>| > | Spring Lake, NJ
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.4 : Tue Jul 18 2006 - 21:41:02 PDT