From: djslager@mail.icongrp.com
Date: Sat Feb 25 2006 - 15:03:15 PST
Ron, You take the cake, very GOOD...........Doug Slager
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron" <rojoha@adelphia.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Irrelevant postings
>
> Sorry Jay, but....
>
> Well, for those that have NEVER looked, or whose memory is a bit shaky
> about the last time they looked, like mine, GO HERE:
>
>
> http://mil-veh.org/
>
> And I quote:
>
> "The military vehicles mailing list is a forum for those who privately own
> or are interested in military vehicles from any country and of any type,
> from bicycles to tanks.
>
> Discussion can cover repair of vehicles, buying and selling vehicles and
> spare parts, weapons, paint, markings, technical documentation, and
> notification of clubs, parades, and conventions for military vehicle
owners.
> Most any discussion concerning issues of interest to military vehicle
> collectors is appropriate, though military matters beyond historical
> background would likely belong on sci.military. "
>
>
>
> And that's exactly what "THIS LIST" is for.
>
> I joined the list because it "...WAS THAT LIMITED..." at least when
> Arthur actively monitored it and booted folks off for violations.
>
> But thinking it is OK now is like saying that shoplifting and not
> getting caught is not really shoplifting because you didn't get caught so
> nobody knows you stole anything because there is no proof that what you
got
> in your hand was ever not in your hand because the guy you stole it from
> doesn't know it's missing or that you took it, which nobody can prove.
>
> Kinda like getting pissed when somebody takes something off your
vehicle
> at a parade or rally when you're explaining something to someone on the
> other side of your truck, or when 'Junior' dump his Coke all over the seat
> because you let folks in the cab to 'experience' your HMV. Not the parents
> fault or the kids fault their kid broke your truck that you were nice
enough
> to let them climb into to experience living history. You're the 'arsehole'
> because you tell 'Jr.' to stop (FIVE TIMES!!!!!) pulling the bungee cord
> across the cargo body after he puts the bungee cord hook (which is
pulling
> out) through the seats while 'Mommy' zones out thinking 'Jr.' is contained
> in a big OD playpen with 20 other undisciplined evil spawn of the NIMBY X
> generation. The ones who don't want to see replica weapons on your big,
> nasty HMVs. Who complain about evil Ferrets and the lack of lights and
> bumpers on your deuce but not about their use of cell phones and looking
> back and feeding fries to their evil spawn in their child seats in the
back
> seats of their minivans at 85 MPH while trying to change the DVD in the
> entertainment system. "Officer, the accident was caused by that slow
moving,
> camouflage painted military truck that has no right being on the road with
> modern cars. WHAT would anyone want with something like that? I wonder
what
> he is REALLY up to with that?"
>
> It's always 'my' problem, not theirs or yours, right?
>
>
>
> We've all been guilty of wandering off topic, and some of us have been
> THE 'off topic'. But that doesn't allow us the right to selective memory
to
> rewrite the charter of the list, or like the Smithsonian wanted to do
about
> the 'Enola Gay's' mission and reason for urban renewal of downtown
> Hiroshima, or the young POS who wish to dishonor Greg Boyington's memory
or
> what he did. An Ace, POW and Medal of Honor recipient, Boyington himself
> admitted he was human and summed up his foibles in his autobiography by
> stating "If this story were to have a moral, then I would say, 'Just name
a
> hero and I'll prove he's a bum.'". BTW, his memory is not dishonored by
all
> University of Washington alumni or their newspaper columns, at least as of
> 1998...
http://www.washington.edu/alumni/columns/dec98/back_pages1298.html
> . What is going on there is an example of what's wrong with the citizens
of
> this country, our elected officials and the folks on 'THIS LIST' who
would
> like to selectively bend the past to suit 'their' present conception of
it.
>
> Oppps, embarrassed by documents that have been declassified and in the
> public realm for 25 years but show you made some bone head choices as a
low
> level bureaucrat? Head of an agency or department now and have the clout
to
> change that little embarrassing problem now? Just 'reclassify' them (and
25
> million pages of other 'unrelated' documents) as being in the national
> security interest and make them disappear again. Been to ETM online
lately
> and seen stuff ( i.e. 20 year old manuals on heaters) that used to be
> available as 'unrestricted' and in the public domain are now on a
different
> site and need a password? Things are not looking good folks.
>
> Everyone needs to 'try' and be good boys here, since we all have
> somewhat common interests. We're all human and slip from time to time and
> become dopes and arseholes, but when the going gets tough, you never know
> who is going to become the guy who saves your arse. "He' who might be the
> 'slightly' off topic poster today and gets a little singed by the rest of
> us, just might be the guy who saddles up and drives a couple of hundred
> miles to help you out in a time of need, and refuses reimbursement for gas
> and the stuff he brings. Or lets you have that one critical, non findable
> part you've been looking for for two years to finish your restoration for
> what he paid for it 10 years ago at a yard sale or found in a box of stuff
> he bought at Aberdeen that he has no use for, maybe even for free, just
> 'because' he's that way. Or he might possess a silly little piece of
> knowledge gained over twenty years of HMV ownership that he discovered
over
> six weeks of screwing with his fuel compensator, steering box or wiring
> harness that could save you the same amount of head scratching but doesn't
> impart to you because you flamed him about capitals or spelling or history
> posts five months back.
>
>
>
> So lighten up folks,, take a deep breath, use the 'delete' key as
> required and enjoy each others company here without going crazily off
topic.
> Or going crazy about occasional off topic posts.
>
> Life is too short to suffer a vapor lock over things we REALLY don't
> have any control over.
>
> Regards, Ronzo
>
> Occasional Off Topic Arsehole, but usually well meaning SOB
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Jay Travis" <dagobert@ix.netcom.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: 24 February, 2006 20:15
> Subject: Re: [MV] Irrelevant postings
>
>
> {SNIP}
> So the last time I looked, this list was not limited to ONLY discussing
> > your lefthand threaded nut pitch on your M35 or repeated arguments about
> > the script and font of the "F" on Ford WWII jeep bolt heads. Nor did it
> > say that we are limited to discussing only MVs that happen to appeal to
> > Al,
> > or any other individual on the list. If you want it THAT limited,
perhaps
> > you should start your own list of one and talk to yourself. {SNIP}
> >
>
>
>
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