Re: M1009 CUCV problem

From: Sonny Heath (sonny@defuniak.com)
Date: Mon Mar 20 2006 - 15:48:43 PST

I no longer have CUCV and HMMWV starters for $150.00, now I have them for
$200.00, but they probably won't last long at that price either.

Sonny

----- Original Message -----
From: "MV" <MV@dc9.tzo.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] M1009 CUCV problem

> This would seem like a logical solution - and if it were possible, I would
> think that it would be done by the manufacturers. I don't believe that
> you can fuse that link effectively. Spinning a stubborn motor with a 12
> volt or 24 volt motor is very close to a short circuit. Too close in
> fact. I doubt that a fuse could differentiate between a faltering starter
> and a stubborn starting engine. Hence if you setup a fuse to blow when
> the starter falters - it is likely that you would have nuisance fuses
> being blown each time you had to crank it over a little more than usual.
>
> I'm sure a more elaborate protection scheme could be designed, but it
> could get expensive, and car makers are not into putting in any cost that
> doesn't have a direct impact on increased car sales or safety.
>
> Dave
>
>
> Sean Nichols wrote:
>> OK, so here's a question related to this failure:
>>
>> Given the possibility of this happening, would it be wise or at least
>> make sense to put some sort of fusable link inline between the starter
>> and the battery? Seems like it would be cheap insurance if something
>> like that happened.
>>
>> Armchair CUCV electrical engineers what say you?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/18/06, Sonny Heath <sonny@defuniak.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I've got starters for $150.00
>>>
>>>Sonny
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "MV" <MV@dc9.tzo.com>
>>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 1:02 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [MV] M1009 CUCV problem
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Sounds like a starter solenoid failure to me - probably welded in.
>>>>Nothing is fused. Starter pulls in and can't rotate for some reason -
>>>>basically a short circuit - huge power draws - everything gets hot and
>>>>oftentimes catches on fire.
>>>>
>>>>Solution - buy a bunch of new parts and install. (:-<)
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>Mark B. Anderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>went to start my M1009 this morning.
>>>>>ok manual glowed plugs truck turned over but never started tried again
>>>>>and then there was smoke. lifted hood both batteries were melting and
>>>>>the wires were on fire.
>>>>>
>>>>>ok what happened anyone else ever had this happen? to me seems like
>>>>>something stuck with shorting the 24 volt?
>>>>>any ideas on what to look for or replace first??
>>>>>
>>>>>any help here would be great.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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