From: MV (MV@dc9.tzo.com)
Date: Sun Apr 02 2006 - 12:12:14 PDT
Hi Jeff,
I would not take it personally - I think your
If everyone on this let your suggestion just go by - and a couple of MVs
Dave
Jeff wrote:
idea/suggestion/observation sucks also - but it's just a bad idea IMO.
I don't think you are a bad guy necessarily - just a guy named Jeff
with one bad suggestion. Some people also rob banks to raise money -
that is a fact also - but also a very bad idea unless you like prison food.
were involved in collisions, without registration and insurance and the
entire MV community was indicted as having somehow sanctioned this kind
of behavior, then we could lose a lot of ground. The MV community is
constantly being attacked as it is to try and prevent us from using
anything that is green and ex-military. We really don't need reckless
and irresponsible behavior adding to our issues. If you can't afford
the insurance, then you can't afford to drive an MV.
> Thank you Patrick, all I was doing was stating a fact,
> I never recomended that anyone go out there un
> registered and uninsured. And yes, if and when I wear
> BDU's they do not have any insignia or name tapes.
> Geez man, guess I'll learn to not post anything in the
> future, didn't know I would get jumped on by so many.
> I think this is a good reason why so many just read
> the posts and not contribute.
>
>
>
> --- Patrick Jankowiak <recycler@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>>If you like to wear BDUs, make sure you got no
>>'army' name tapes on them.
>>then you are not impersonating.
>>
>>Arthur Bloom wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Yesterday was April 1st. I think your advice would
>>
>>have been appropriate
>>
>>>then.
>>>
>>>Today, it seems to be the worst possible advice I
>>
>>have seen on this list in
>>
>>>several years. If a person were to follow your
>>
>>advice, and get into an
>>
>>>accident, the sh*t storm that would follow would
>>
>>be of Biblical proportions.
>>
>>>Can you say "Leavenworth"? Can you say "20 years
>>
>>of hard labor"? Can you say
>>
>>>"All assets (house, land, bank accounts, business
>>
>>interests) forfeited"?
>>
>>>..."Local and state police have no jurisdiction
>>
>>over the National Guard..."
>>
>>>is what you think? They DO have jurisdiction over
>>
>>criminal impersonation in
>>
>>>the first degree, which in NY is a Class D felony.
>>
>>They DO have jurisdiction
>>
>>>over persons driving without a license,
>>
>>registration, insurance, inspection,
>>
>>>or other documentation.
>>>
>>>Please tell us your were April Fool-ing.
>>>
>>>APB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Jeff" <jcerniglia@sbcglobal.net>
>>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
>>
>><mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>
>>>Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:16 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [MV] Unimog insurance problems
>>
>>(Maine)
>>
>>>
>>>|
>>>| Or you can do like a lot of guys do and just
>>
>>make sure
>>
>>>| it has good realistic National guard markings
>>
>>and
>>
>>>| camo, always wear BDU's while driving it and
>>
>>just
>>
>>>| drive it just so with no reg. I know some guys
>>
>>who
>>
>>>| have done this for years and have never ever
>>
>>been
>>
>>>| stopped. Local and state police have no
>>
>>Jurisdiction
>>
>>>| over the National guard and usually do not mess
>>
>>with
>>
>>>| their vehicles. Kind of the radical approach but
>>
>>it is
>>
>>>| done.
>>>|
>>>|
>>>|
>>>| --- Sonny Heath <sonny@defuniak.com> wrote:
>>>|
>>>| > Steve,
>>>| >
>>>| > I think I know how to get around it. Slide
>>
>>yourself
>>
>>>| > a cabover camper on the
>>>| > bed and attach it with bolts and register it
>>
>>as a
>>
>>>| > recreational vehicle.
>>>| > Your insurance will drop to about $300.00 a
>>
>>year for
>>
>>>| > full coverage. Thats
>>>| > what I did in Florida. My liability insurance
>>
>>alone
>>
>>>| > and tag was about
>>>| > $5000.00 a year and now the same vehicle only
>>>| > heavier is about $350.00 a
>>>| > year for full coverage and a tag.
>>>| >
>>>| > Sonny
>>>| > ----- Original Message -----
>>>| > From: "Glenn Shaw" <milspectruck@verizon.net>
>>>| > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
>>>| > <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>| > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 5:51 PM
>>>| > Subject: Re: [MV] Unimog insurance problems
>>
>>(Maine)
>>
>>>| >
>>>| >
>>>| > > The CDL also requires a Road Te$t. Renewing
>>
>>my
>>
>>>| > CDL is 170.00 each time it
>>>| > > comes up. I would avoid it if you can.
>>>| > >
>>>| > > Glenn
>>>| > >
>>>| > > -----Original Message-----
>>>| > > From: Military Vehicles Mailing List
>>>| > [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
>>>| > > Behalf
>>>| > > Of Stephen Grammont
>>>| > > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 10:02 AM
>>>| > > To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
>>>| > > Subject: Re: [MV] Unimog insurance problems
>>>| > (Maine)
>>>| > >
>>>| > >
>>>| > > Hello Arthur,
>>>| > >
>>>| > >> Are you talking about full coverage?
>>
>>Liability
>>
>>>| > only? Fire & theft?
>>>| > >> Collision? What level of liability?
>>
>>$100/$300K?
>>
>>>| > That would be the
>>>| > >> minumim I would have,
>>>| > >
>>>| > > I didn't even ask what the coverage amount
>>
>>was
>>
>>>| > because I was in shock.
>>>| > > It was for liability and collision. The
>>
>>point is,
>>
>>>| > that was my single
>>>| > > "take it or leave it" option, which just
>>
>>doesn't
>>
>>>| > sit well with me.
>>>| > >
>>>| > >> and $1300 doesn't seem out of line.
>>>| > >
>>>| > > As I said, I currently have THREE vehicles
>>
>>with
>>
>>>| > equal or greater
>>>| > > coverage for just about the same amount of
>>
>>money.
>>
>>>| > In another state
>>>| > > $1300 is probably a bargain, but up here
>>
>>everybody
>>
>>>| > I mentioned it to
>>>| > > had their eyes pop out in surprise. So
>>
>>relative
>>
>>>| > to my other insurance,
>>>| > > it's an incredibly large difference. I was
>>>| > guessing around $600 due to
>>>| > > the weight.
>>>| > >
>>>| > >> You can register it as an
>>>| > >> historical vehicle, and pay about $350.
>>
>>That
>>
>>>| > would, however, limit
>>>| > >> your use
>>>| > >> of the truck.
>>>| > >
>>>| > > Limit it to the point of uselessness,
>>>| > unfortunately, so that isn't an
>>>| > > option. The insurance quoted was for either
>>>| > commercial or agriculture
>>>| > > (they won't do passenger due to the weight),
>>
>>so no
>>
>>>| > difference based on
>>>| > > how I register it. I might save money on
>>
>>the
>>
>>>| > registration itself, and
>>>| > > perhaps don't need a CDL (checking into that
>>>| > Monday), but it apparently
>>>| > > doesn't change my options vis a vis the
>>
>>insurance
>>
>>>| > company.
>>>| > >
>>>| > >> A CDL is not required to drive a vehicle
>>
>>with
>>
>>>| > air-ASSISTed brakes, any
>>>| > >> more
>>>| > >> than it would be required for
>>
>>vaccuum-assisted
>>
>>>| > brakes. The key word is
>>>| > >> air-over-HYDRAULIC. That means that the
>>
>>brakes
>>
>>>| > still work
>>>| > >> hydraulically even
>>>| > >> if the air supply fails. Tell them that.
>>>| > >
>>>| > > Apparently this is not the case in Maine. I
>>
>>was
>>
>>>| > first tipped off by a
>>>| > > friend who is a commercial tower and he said
>>
>>I'd
>>
>>>| > need one. Not
>>>| > > believing him, I called down to the head
>>
>>office
>>
>>>| > and was told the same.
>>>| > > But I'm not done since I still don't believe
>>
>>them.
>>
>
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