From: Everette (194cbteng@bellsouth.net)
Date: Tue May 09 2006 - 05:12:30 PDT
you are probably correct for this application
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Martin" <mung@in-touch.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Winch lube Tip
> Everette wrote:
>
>> just a thought on lube for winch gear box,
>>
>> I come from farm background and we (John Deere dealership) used
>> "cotton picker spindle grease" in gearboxes of brush cutters that were
>> prone to leak gear oil - these machines have gear box driven by
>> driveshaft from rear of farm tractor, and typically have heavy cutter
>> blade on output shaft, the grease is light weight and designed to
>> lubricate gear box on cotton picker heads - hot, dirty, heavy service
>> - should do a good job on winch gear box
>>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce C. Beattie"
>> <bruce@EECS.Berkeley.EDU>
>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:46 AM
>> Subject: [MV] Winch Tip
>>
>>
>>> Hi List,
>>> I learned a usefull tip from Kevin Strain today concerning winches.
>>> For some reason the military speced gear oil for the winches, and
>>> along with the gear oil comes
>>> drips of gear oil as one would expect.
>>> The trick is to put a grease fittin on the winch and fill it full
>>> of grease.
>>> No more leaks and performance is the same.
>>> Bruce MVPA 23824
>>>
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>> Everette.....It is my understanding that a winch has a (usually)
>> bronze worm gear and a steel worm....and there is a lot of heat
>> involved as there is a high reduction ratio...2/3/400 to one or
>> similar. If the gear has grease on it and wipes the grease off on a
>> trip around (revolution) then the worm and gear would not have
>> lubrication for the next trip around. I'm thinking that this would be
>> okay for a regular gearbox but not for a worm and worm gear. I would
>> think it would need something like 140 wt. EP (extreme pressure) gear
>> lube that should be filled enough to keep the lower half of the worm
>> gear running in it to relubricate it (and remove heat) for the next
>> revolution. Now I'm not an expert on this subject but with 3 or 4
>> teeth in contact at any given time pulling a load of several tons, you
>> need good lubrication. I'm thinking that if I were in this situation
>> of a leaking seal.....I would use your method only with just enough
>> grease to thicken up the viscosity enough to keep it from leaking.
>> Just my 02 cents....respectfully, Fred Martin
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