From: Ed (mojoedd@bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed May 10 2006 - 06:16:43 PDT
That's what I have Bruce, the gear reduction starter, brand new in the
sealed military box. That's when my troubles started, when I installed that
brand new gear reduction starter. It's for the M-1008 & M-1009 and you do
need to replace the under dash starter relay!!!! That's the entire problem
that I've had in a nut shell....................Putting in a new starter
relay from Kenworth today. Shouldn't have any more problems in that area.
Best Regards,
Ed
"The consolidation of the States into one vast empire, sure to be
aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain
precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce C. Beattie" <bruce@EECS.Berkeley.EDU>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 01:40
Subject: Re: [MV] Starter Saga V & ??
> Ok guys,
> I'm going to stick my neck out here....
> This is a gut response and not based on any real logic.
>
> If it were me, I would swap out the starter with the new replacement
> that the Military came up with.
> It is a gear reduction 24 volt starter. I had some starter problems a
> while back and ended up getting one of these.
> They run like a swiss watch and by the sound, you wouldn't think you
> were driving anything bigger that an
> electric shaver. Bear in mind this is for the M1008. I don't know if the
> M1009 uses the same starter, but I suspect it does.
>
> I don't think this is the exact answer to the question, but I think
> that there is a lot less current flying around with
> the geared starter and I am guessing that will make things a little more
> dependable.
>
> That being said, get rid of the under dash relay and replace with a
> heavy duty one!
>
> Note to self. Follow your own advice stupid!!!
>
> Bruce MVPA 23824
>
>
>
>
> Chance Wolf wrote:
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ed" <mojoedd@bellsouth.net>
> >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:54 PM
> >Subject: [MV] Starter Saga V & ??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Tried to start the truck and it went
> >>ballistic at the starter again!!!! This time I was ready and pulled the
> >>starter relay BEFORE it burned anything. Tore up my bad back but saved
> >>
> >>
> >the
> >
> >
> >>truck!!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I've had lots of those relays weld themselves closed, and a few that went
> >open. Doesn't even raise an eyebrow now. I just cut the relay socket
off
> >and wire in a really heavy-current, heavy-duty starter relay and have
done
> >with it.
> >
> >I've had the solenoids themselves weld up too after a decent arc. It
just
> >happened to me on the way to Montana in the company M1008 we use for
trailer
> >towing. First thing I did was pull the relay (automatic reaction
nowadays!)
> >but the starter kept winding, so...battery disconnect time. I carry a
spare
> >starter and a couple of starter bolts with me on long trips, so about
half
> >an hour later I was ready to go again.
> >
> >(We should have that as a competitive event at the next MVPA
> >convention..."CUCV Starter Change Olympics". You're given a truck with
the
> >engine spinning over on the starter with the key turned off, and you have
to
> >pull the relay, disconnect the batteries and change the starter - and do
it
> >all quickly enough that you have enough battery left to start the beast
from
> >cold after the starter's been swapped. Those who don't finish in the Top
> >Three get to come back while the rest of us are in the beer garden and
spend
> >an hour or two swapping out the gnawed flex-plate. ;)
> >
> >
> >
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