From: MV (MV@dc9.tzo.com)
Date: Sun May 14 2006 - 21:47:36 PDT
It's just profit taking at it's best. I'm sure that the Civy version
may have cost perhaps 10-20K more but that's about it. The facility in
Elkhart has limited capacity even though they recently expanded it. It
really isn't anything like a traditional GM assembly plant in size.
Also, remember that GM doesn't own AM General, they only have a contract
with them. So perhaps AM General renegotiated the contract making it
less profitable for GM and AM General. Or perhaps AM General wanted GM
out of their company before GM goes under. I don't know. My previous
point was that GM is a master at throwing away opportunities. I think
they just pitched away a big one when they dropped the H-1. I think
they did the same thing with Oldsmoble a while ago.
I do know that GM was involved in the plant expansion in Elkhart. All
of the specs for the plant expansion came right out of GM.
Dave
Darrell Ramsell wrote:
> Hi Rich
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> I figured it's high cost was a factor.
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> I have a Marine friend who's the head of the local Motor-T tell me that
> the Marines pay $38,000 for a standard HMMWV. Now I know the H-1 has a
> lot more comfort and luxury items compared to the HMMWV but I find it
> hard to believe that all those extras would cost an additional $60,000.
> Maybe someone can shed some light on that?
>
> Darrell
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <vlmuke@comcast.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 9:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] General Motors to End Hummer H1 Production
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>> Hi
>> Here is some info on the H1
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>> Someone mentioned that why don'y they sell commercial versions of the H1,
>> Actually that is what the H1 was orginally intended for But famous
>> people like Arnold and other stars made them popular, the other thing
>> is that the commercial versions were too expensive for most commercial
>> users, they made a firetruck, amubulance versions, rescue trucks ect,
>> they sold some but not very many, they concetrated on the puplic
>> instead, a modified pick up is less than half the cost of a H1.
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>> Our Local paper and some friends that work there said that right now
>> sales are down and the costs are too high they run any where from
>> 90,000 to 140,00 dollars for an H1 and they get alot of complaints
>> that they won't fit in a parking spaces, can't fit in most garages and
>> right now the demand is for the Humvee is very high and they orginally
>> started making them as the humvee production was slowing but since
>> Iraq the demand for humvees has been high
>> and they have a higher profit margin with the humvee
>>
>> Hope this helps
>> RichB
>> Elkhart, IN
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>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: MV <MV@dc9.tzo.com>
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>>> > We'll be down to Honda, Toyota (Seen the new FJ Cruiser? Its
>>> METAL!!!)
>>> > Volvo, S&S, Dodge, and a few others like Volvo.
>>>
>>> It sure would be nice if some of these were actually American companies.
>>> Well I think S&S is, but that hardly counts. Being an ex-Detroiter
>>> and an ex-GM engineer just makes all of these bunglings hard to swallow.
>>> They were screwed up when I left in '82 and it's been a downhill
>>> slide for GM ever since. In the late 70's GM believed that they were
>>> making close to 60% of the cars sold in the US. They didn't advertise
>>> that fact and actually skewed the numbers that were reported to avoid
>>> anti-trust actions. They were seriously concerned about the Government
>>> breaking up the company. Not much later some real bozo's (bean
>>> counters) took control of the company and began to drive it into the
>>> ground.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Ryan Gill wrote:
>>> > At 10:39 AM -0400 5/13/06, MV wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> GM - a bunch of idiots trying to make things.
>>> >>
>>> >> Their decision making ability is dismal.
>>> >>
>>> >> Example: GM Heavy truck division sold to Volvo - now Volvo truck -
>>> >> uh... have you seen just a couple of Volvo trucks on the road?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Volvos been doing the Military Truck thing in Europe. Give them
>>> another
>>> > 5-10 yeras, and they'll be shooting for US contracts soon.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> If only these guys had a clue about how to run a company.
>>> >> Unfortunately all of the guys who actually grew General Motors and
>>> >> Ford are dead. Apparently now the only guys in control are bean
>>> >> counters and since they don't make beans, they are screwed.
>>> >
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