Re: Cheap hydrogen fuel for diesel or gas - "Brown's gas" from water

From: Chris Brunner (cjbrunner@optonline.net)
Date: Tue May 16 2006 - 19:20:17 PDT


Funny enough that this would come up now, MythBusters just did an
episode on fuel saving devices, and they checked the electrolysis idea.
They came to the conclusion that the quantity of power required to
create electrolysis of the quantity to make a difference would draw more
from the engine than it could produce on the fuel. Although they did
get a car to run off of a Hydrogen mix injected into the carb from a
standing tank at high flow.

Chris

Marty Galyean wrote:
> Jack Lee wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys, don't recall if this has been brought up before, but
>> thought I would run it by you and see what you think, it seems
>> interesting...and if it works, it would be great!
>>
>> I see a number of companies selling these 1 quart hydrogen gas
>> producing tanks that mount under the hood of your car or MV. You
>> fill them with distilled water, flip an electrical switch and
>> electrolysis cracks the water, releasing hydrogen gas into your air
>> intake system which is immediately consumed in the engine and thus no
>> need for pressurized storage.
>>
>> The theory is, the hydrogen mixes with the regular fuel, be it diesel
>> or gasoline and air and becomes combusted in the normal way, but it
>> produces more power and thus you let up a bit off the pedal and still
>> get the same speed. The savings is touted at 20%-40%. I find it
>> hard to believe that a quart of water is going to emit enough
>> hydrogen gas volume long enough to make any measurable difference in
>> a tank of gas, but thats the claim. Also engines run cleaner and
>> smoother. (not the first time I heard that one either)
>>
>> The costs per unit vary greatly from $50 to $700 and they all
>> basically produce about the same as far as I can tell. The process
>> seems like basic high school science, it's so simple. But, if its
>> all that, I have wonder why we are not using them in cars everywhere?
>>
>> Has anyone had any experience with such a thing? Is there any cost
>> savings here or is this another too good to be true gimmick?
>>
>> Here is one on ebay...
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Generator-Save-Fuel-Gas_W0QQitemZ9726454626QQcategoryZ294QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>
> More like 10% savings. And the principle is sound. The hydrogen
> increases volumetric efficiency by giving a more complete burn of the
> mix so you get more bang for the buck; you use more of the gas/diesel
> than you would at lower temps.
>
> But your are right, you have to consider the hassle of filling the
> distilled water tank and stuff.
>
> Marty
>
>
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