Re: MANN Truck on Ebay

From: Arthur Bloom (m35prod@optonline.net)
Date: Tue Jun 06 2006 - 11:22:03 PDT


I hate you!!! You have dashed my child-like beliefs. Next you're going to
tell us there is no tooth fairy, and Bush really did get elected.

apb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarge" <
micdunn@ev1.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] MANN Truck on Ebay

| Sarge here,
| I'm all over this one. The actual seller had his auction hi-jacked last
| Saturday.
| I contacted E-Bay who said "We will take appropriate action" , which of
| course translates into English as "We won't do doodly-squat unless it
takes
| a penny out of our pocket".
| I then contacted the FBI Internet Crime division and made a full report.
| At least they are honest enough to not bother to lie to me. In other
words,
| they will read my report in 2008 and take action when hell freezes over.
| I contacted the real seller who seems to be nice enough and quite honest.
| I contacted the scammer who I am going to keep on the hook for a while.

| TJ's tribulations inspired me enough to have a little fun here.
| The scammer is most definitely not a native English speaker and I will
post
| our communications on this list if anyone requests it.
| Mandatory MV content: This scammer is attempting to scam MV'ers to the
tune
| of $5,000 each.
| Here is his plan:
| He hi-jacked an MV'ers password and took control of an MV auction.
| The MAN truck was previously listed with a starting bid of $17,500 and a
buy
| it now price of $22,000.
| When the scammer got the real seller's password, he immediately changed it
| so that the real seller could not access his own auction.
| Then he changed the item description to remove the original sellers name
and
| telephone number. Then he inserted his own e-mail address.
| He changed the starting bid price to $1,500 and the buy it now price to
| $5,000.
| Here is where he got clever: Only pre-approved bidders were allowed to
bid.
| Meaning you had to e-mail him for pre-approval.
| That caused a feeding frenzy amongst the MV community.
| Here is a 20 ton 8x8 MAN prime mover for $5,000!!!! Who wouldn't jump on
| that?
| Well, E-Bay had 10,167 hits on that page. Let's say 10% of lookers thought
| it was a good deal.
| So now 1,000 MV'ers e-mail this dork and ask to be pre-approved for
bidding.
| But! The scammer does not pre-approve anybody. Why not? Why mess with the
| theft of $5,000 when you can make millions?
| He waits until the sale is over with zero bids. Zero bids because he did
not
| pre-approve anybody.
| Now he e-mails those thousand (I'm one of them) and offers the truck for
the
| buy it now price of $5,000.
| If he can scam one thousand buyers of $5,000 each, that's a cool $5
million.
| Or even if he can only scam 10 percent (100 buyers), which is not so
| far-fetched, that is still $500,000. Pretty soon, we are talking about
some
| real money.
| Now you are in e-mail contact with him and he starts offering you the
"E-Bay
| Purchase Protection Plan"
| There is such an animal and it usually works pretty well. However, E-Bay
| only offers the plan if you buy the item by using the Bid feature on the
| auction. Otherwise, you are on your own.
| The scammer then sets up a real bank account and has you wire the $5,000
| into an escrow holding company. This is an impartial third party "money
| holder". He then says when he has shipped the vehicle to you, and you are
| happy with it, you release the escrow funds to him. Of course the escrow
| company is a fake, the bank account is emptied, he's rich and gone. You
are
| Screwed!!!
| Anyway, that's the scam, now you know, happy bidding!
| -Sarge out
|
|
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