From: Arthur Bloom (m35prod@optonline.net)
Date: Sat Jun 17 2006 - 07:48:39 PDT
Yes, of course. But this is a family-oriented forum, and some things are
apb
----- Original Message -----
| And do you all know what the first antifreeze was?
best left to the reader's imagination.
From: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
|
| Sonny
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Edward Greeley" <etgreeley@earthlink.net>
| To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
| Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:04 AM
| Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
|
|
| > Excuse me for butting in, but...
| >
| > "Back in the day", anti-freeze certainly WAS flammable. Prior to WW-II
and
| > for a few years after, ethylene glycol was relatively expensive and
| > relatively scarce. Methyl alcohol (or was it denatured ethyl alcohol?)
was
| > very commonly packaged and sold as automotive anti-freeze. In either
case,
| > the uncut alcohol certainly would burn. Many unenlightened old-timers
| > don't understand the difference between glycol and alcohol, hence the
| > confusion about the flammability of "anti-freeze."
| >
| > Among the drawbacks to the use of alcohol as anti-freeze was the fact
that
| > it would boil away and needed to be replenished periodically. Woe be
unto
| > the one who forgot to check the gravity of the alcohol-water mix
| > anti-freeze before a cold snap. That was a common cause of busted blocks
| > and/or popped core hole plugs "back in the day." Been there, done that.
| >
| > Just an olde phart who remembers...
| >
| > Everette wrote:
| >> I was aware that mixed with water it would not burn, what I heard was
| >> that undiluted anti-freeze would, apparently from what Dave wrote it is
| >> the fumes from boiling anti-freeze will, I checked MSDS on ethylene
| >> glycol that I have used in manufacturing and it provides instructions
| >> dealing with spills that indicates it to be flammable...
| >>
| >> I suppose from a technical standpoint rum will not burn, when you make
| >> Bananas Foster and sit them alight it is the alcohols in the rum that
| >> burns.
| >>
| >> E
| >>
| >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Burke" <julian@knology.net>
| >> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
| >> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:34 PM
| >> Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
| >>
| >>
| >>>
| >>> Anti freeze is not flamable-never was. Who told you that? Your
mixture
| >>> of kerosene was. Cars would be exploding in crashes or common
radiator
| >>> leaks! That's why it isn't flamable.
| >>>
| >>> Antifreeze was never meant to be used straight. 50/50 is the proper
| >>> mix. You're right, straight antifreeze does not give proper
protection.
| >>> Think about it...................why isn't straight antifreeze
better???
| >>> It has to have a water content for the chemical mixture. Because of
| >>> shipping is why it comes straight. You would need more mix and would
| >>> then come in 5 gallon bottles. Would make it cost more too.
| >>>
| >>> Julian Burke
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>> How much fluid in CUCV Radiator
| >>>>
| >>>> I have been told that the old familiar anti-freeze as it comes out of
| >>>> bottle is flammable - never tried it - has anyone heard this, and
what
| >>>> about new stuff is it flammable?
| >>>>
| >>>> And while on subject - straight anti-freeze does not give same
| >>>> protection from low temperature as 50/50 mix, it will freeze at a
| >>>> higher temp than mix will. - so I have heard, never tried it.
| >>>>
| >>>> Back many years ago my buddies and I could not afford antifreeze - we
| >>>> used 2/3 kerosene, 1/3 water and hand full of detergent - detergent
| >>>> kept mixture mixed, at least we thought it did. Never had a freeze
up.
| >>>>
| >>>> E
| >
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