From: Arthur Bloom (m35prod@optonline.net)
Date: Sat Jun 17 2006 - 09:32:29 PDT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Hay MILWEB" <nigel@milweb.net>
To: "Arthur Bloom" <m35prod@optonline.net>; "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
<mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 11:58 AM
Subject: RE: [MV] antifreeze
| Surely it was Beaujolais Nouveau 1903? a bad year for vin rouge but a good
| year for anti freeze
|
| NIGEL HAY
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| -----Original Message-----
| From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
| Behalf Of Arthur Bloom
| Sent: 17 June 2006 16:49
| To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
| Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
|
|
| Yes, of course. But this is a family-oriented forum, and some things are
| best left to the reader's imagination.
|
| apb
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>
| To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
| Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:09 AM
| Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
|
|
|| And do you all know what the first antifreeze was?
||
|| Sonny
||
||
|| ----- Original Message -----
|| From: "Edward Greeley" <etgreeley@earthlink.net>
|| To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
|| Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:04 AM
|| Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
||
||
|| > Excuse me for butting in, but...
|| >
|| > "Back in the day", anti-freeze certainly WAS flammable. Prior to WW-II
| and
|| > for a few years after, ethylene glycol was relatively expensive and
|| > relatively scarce. Methyl alcohol (or was it denatured ethyl alcohol?)
| was
|| > very commonly packaged and sold as automotive anti-freeze. In either
| case,
|| > the uncut alcohol certainly would burn. Many unenlightened old-timers
|| > don't understand the difference between glycol and alcohol, hence the
|| > confusion about the flammability of "anti-freeze."
|| >
|| > Among the drawbacks to the use of alcohol as anti-freeze was the fact
| that
|| > it would boil away and needed to be replenished periodically. Woe be
| unto
|| > the one who forgot to check the gravity of the alcohol-water mix
|| > anti-freeze before a cold snap. That was a common cause of busted
blocks
|| > and/or popped core hole plugs "back in the day." Been there, done that.
|| >
|| > Just an olde phart who remembers...
|| >
|| > Everette wrote:
|| >> I was aware that mixed with water it would not burn, what I heard was
|| >> that undiluted anti-freeze would, apparently from what Dave wrote it
is
|| >> the fumes from boiling anti-freeze will, I checked MSDS on ethylene
|| >> glycol that I have used in manufacturing and it provides instructions
|| >> dealing with spills that indicates it to be flammable...
|| >>
|| >> I suppose from a technical standpoint rum will not burn, when you make
|| >> Bananas Foster and sit them alight it is the alcohols in the rum that
|| >> burns.
|| >>
|| >> E
|| >>
|| >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Burke" <julian@knology.net>
|| >> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
|| >> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:34 PM
|| >> Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
|| >>
|| >>
|| >>>
|| >>> Anti freeze is not flamable-never was. Who told you that? Your
| mixture
|| >>> of kerosene was. Cars would be exploding in crashes or common
| radiator
|| >>> leaks! That's why it isn't flamable.
|| >>>
|| >>> Antifreeze was never meant to be used straight. 50/50 is the proper
|| >>> mix. You're right, straight antifreeze does not give proper
| protection.
|| >>> Think about it...................why isn't straight antifreeze
| better???
|| >>> It has to have a water content for the chemical mixture. Because of
|| >>> shipping is why it comes straight. You would need more mix and would
|| >>> then come in 5 gallon bottles. Would make it cost more too.
|| >>>
|| >>> Julian Burke
|| >>>
|| >>>
|| >>>
|| >>>
|| >>>> How much fluid in CUCV Radiator
|| >>>>
|| >>>> I have been told that the old familiar anti-freeze as it comes out
of
|| >>>> bottle is flammable - never tried it - has anyone heard this, and
| what
|| >>>> about new stuff is it flammable?
|| >>>>
|| >>>> And while on subject - straight anti-freeze does not give same
|| >>>> protection from low temperature as 50/50 mix, it will freeze at a
|| >>>> higher temp than mix will. - so I have heard, never tried it.
|| >>>>
|| >>>> Back many years ago my buddies and I could not afford antifreeze -
we
|| >>>> used 2/3 kerosene, 1/3 water and hand full of detergent - detergent
|| >>>> kept mixture mixed, at least we thought it did. Never had a freeze
| up.
|| >>>>
|| >>>> E
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