From: MV (MV@dc9.tzo.com)
Date: Sun Jun 18 2006 - 14:07:01 PDT
Jack Daniels??
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Dave
Sonny Heath wrote:
> And do you all know what the first antifreeze was?
>
> Sonny
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Greeley"
> <etgreeley@earthlink.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
>
>
>> Excuse me for butting in, but...
>>
>> "Back in the day", anti-freeze certainly WAS flammable. Prior to WW-II
>> and for a few years after, ethylene glycol was relatively expensive
>> and relatively scarce. Methyl alcohol (or was it denatured ethyl
>> alcohol?) was very commonly packaged and sold as automotive
>> anti-freeze. In either case, the uncut alcohol certainly would burn.
>> Many unenlightened old-timers don't understand the difference between
>> glycol and alcohol, hence the confusion about the flammability of
>> "anti-freeze."
>>
>> Among the drawbacks to the use of alcohol as anti-freeze was the fact
>> that it would boil away and needed to be replenished periodically. Woe
>> be unto the one who forgot to check the gravity of the alcohol-water
>> mix anti-freeze before a cold snap. That was a common cause of busted
>> blocks and/or popped core hole plugs "back in the day." Been there,
>> done that.
>>
>> Just an olde phart who remembers...
>>
>> Everette wrote:
>>
>>> I was aware that mixed with water it would not burn, what I heard
>>> was that undiluted anti-freeze would, apparently from what Dave wrote
>>> it is the fumes from boiling anti-freeze will, I checked MSDS on
>>> ethylene glycol that I have used in manufacturing and it provides
>>> instructions dealing with spills that indicates it to be flammable...
>>>
>>> I suppose from a technical standpoint rum will not burn, when you
>>> make Bananas Foster and sit them alight it is the alcohols in the rum
>>> that burns.
>>>
>>> E
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Burke" <julian@knology.net>
>>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anti freeze is not flamable-never was. Who told you that? Your
>>>> mixture of kerosene was. Cars would be exploding in crashes or
>>>> common radiator leaks! That's why it isn't flamable.
>>>>
>>>> Antifreeze was never meant to be used straight. 50/50 is the proper
>>>> mix. You're right, straight antifreeze does not give proper
>>>> protection. Think about it...................why isn't straight
>>>> antifreeze better??? It has to have a water content for the chemical
>>>> mixture. Because of shipping is why it comes straight. You would
>>>> need more mix and would then come in 5 gallon bottles. Would make
>>>> it cost more too.
>>>>
>>>> Julian Burke
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> How much fluid in CUCV Radiator
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been told that the old familiar anti-freeze as it comes out
>>>>> of bottle is flammable - never tried it - has anyone heard this,
>>>>> and what about new stuff is it flammable?
>>>>>
>>>>> And while on subject - straight anti-freeze does not give same
>>>>> protection from low temperature as 50/50 mix, it will freeze at a
>>>>> higher temp than mix will. - so I have heard, never tried it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Back many years ago my buddies and I could not afford antifreeze -
>>>>> we used 2/3 kerosene, 1/3 water and hand full of detergent -
>>>>> detergent kept mixture mixed, at least we thought it did. Never
>>>>> had a freeze up.
>>>>>
>>>>> E
>>
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