Re: [MV] MVPA Rigged Elections

Chief William von Zehle (ChiefvonZehle@wiltonfire.org)
Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:21:22 -0400

Way back in the '70s, I was one of the early members of the Military Vehicle
Collectors' Club (the MVPA's predecessor). Some time later, a feud developed
when some of the board decised to become the "International" Military Vehicle
Collectors' Club. (Seemed at the time like the power had gone to their
heads.) I quit in protest at the time and remained on the sidelines until
last year. God, I hope the "new" MVCC (e.g. MVPA) isn't doing it again!

Please, MVPA Board of Directors - reply to this controversy and show that in
fact there is no underhandedness going on! (The longer the delay, the worse
it looks.)

William von Zehle, Jr.
Ridgefield, Connecticut USA
MVPA 593 (ex MVCC 593)
'51 M42

Rob Dabkowski wrote:

> Alan, I thank you for a well thought out reply... it's too bad that the
> MVPA executive, including Mr. Cleveland, have not yet bothered to address
> the concerns raised by the contributors to this list. I guess that when you
> are "President for Life" you don't have to be concerned with what the
> membership thinks about how an organization should be run. How is it that
> you feel that the MVPA is "our"organization when it appears that three
> board members are completely beyond question/reproach/removal by election
> and that those three control which names will appear on each year's ballot
> ? How do you suggest that I work from within the organization to change it
> when no possibility of changing the governing board appears to exist ? Just
> pay my dues and pray for devine intervention ? Not likely in my case. I
> have no doubt at all that Mr. Cleveland provides countless services to the
> MVPA membership and I do not think that he would be petty enough to cancel
> the MVPA website if forced from office. If that proves to be the case then
> we are all better off without him and the sooner the better. We (the
> membership) can start another web site that is not controlled by any one
> individual,with the possibility of censorship that is inherent in that
> situation. Robert Dabkowski (Toronto, Canada)
>
> ----------
> > From: CVRFOX@aol.com
> > To: robdab@better.net
> > Subject: Re: [MV] MVPA Rigged Elections
> > Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 2:34 AM
> >
> > Robert,
> > I agree we have a very serious problem to address here. I have been an
> active
> > member of the MVPA for five years. I must say, however, Jerry Cleveland
> is a
> > very fine and dedicated member of our collecting community. Among the
> > countless services Jerry provides is the MVPA website which we all use
> and
> > benefit. Whom ever is at fault for this situation, and whatever lead to
> this
> > situation, the MVPA is not "Jerry's Empire" It is our organization, and
> we
> > as members must fix it. You cannot influence nor contribute to any
> > organisation from the outside...
> >
> > Alan Wise
>
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