Re: [MV] Form 97

Eugene PANTANO (snoshu@market1.com)
Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:13:07 -0600

GSA does indeed issue F97's..I have gotten several with various vehicles I
have bought at GSA "Forest Service" Auctions...1SG PANTANO
-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Burke <julianb@esper.com>
To: Military Chat Group <mil-veh@skylee.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 9:16 AM
Subject: [MV] Form 97

>"GSA. I also thought that the form 97 was a DRMO form. Has anyone ever
got
>one
>from GSA?"
>
>A form 97 is special multi-page document (looks/is like a tractor feed
>computer form) that is to be typed in with the buyer's full name and
address
>and price typed in that is issued by ANY Gov't agency that would have/sell
>any vehicle. (FBI, Forestry, EPA, any other three letter organizations, the
>list is a very long one) Many however fall into "GSA". It is only typed
in
>AFTER the vehicle has been sold. If a vehicle is donated to a "municiple"
>(police dept), then a form 97 will also be issued to establish ownership.
>Since the Gov't itself doesn't use "titles", it is their way of
>selling/disposing vehicles with a "MSO". (manufacturers statement of
origin)
>There is no 97 on a vehicle UNTIL AFTER it is sold and leaving the Federal
>Gov't agency either into private or state hands. The Gov't buys vehicles
>either with MSO's or mainly just a "blanket list" of a bill of sale to the
>agency. The Gov't is also "self insuring" so ownership is not an issue.
>Tags are assigned to a vehicle for its' life in Gov't service. If no tag
is
>assigned, then the VIN will be its' "tag", ie; military vehicles or numbers
>that reflect a VIN. This is what got many M151A2's in trouble because 97's
>were non-existant for most if not all of them. (Remember the paper trail I
>spoke about?) The FBI for example, commonly holds sales perhaps once a
>month more/less big /smaller cities and either confiscated or Gov't sedans
>are sold by auction or sealed bid. Contacting your local GSA office will
>get you on their "temporary" mailing list meaning if you continue to
>buy/bid, you will remain on it and if you don't, you usually are dropped
>after 3 mailings. A form 97 is issued by any property officer of the
>Federal Gov't. This is what a "97" is and may not be limited to what I
have
>covered here. Taking a restricted 97 and trying to "launder" or change
its'
>meaning makes you an "IDIOT, MORON, or FELON" or all three. If this
offends
>some, let the shoe fit as I stand by what I say. When I see postings of
>"idiot rumors" such as these and get a reply like this:
>
>"I know us normal people on the list are not as smart as you are Julian
>but you don't need to call us a bunch of idiots. Just because we get a
>bit confused doesn't mean we are stupid. If you have some knowledge to
>dispense to us mere mortals then stick to the facts, just keep the name
>calling out of it."
>
>I have to be like old Sarge, pull you to the corner AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS!
>Proudly signing my name to this, Sincerely, Julian Burke
>
>
>
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