Re: [MV] Re: (need to changet the subject!)

John's mail (fly-fish@mindspring.com)
Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:43:33 -0400

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These school shootings (in particular, the Columbine shooting) being
caused guns is rediculous! I went to school with Eric Harris before he
moved to Littleton. A quarter of the school brought guns to campus and kept
them in their cars and trucks. We took them there to go shooting afterwards
at the rod and gun club. I never knew Eric (I was in his brother's class)
but, believe me, if he had wanted to shoot up a school because guns tempted
him, he would have gone crazy at our school a long time ago. The fact is,
the press has alot to do with everything that is going on in our society.
If you guys think that the government is trying to keep us from having
jeeps, involve your local media. Make those story hungry reporters work for
us for a change. Write a synopsis of what is going to happen at a rally and
get them interested in your "possible story". If you don't try to lobby
them and get them into your little world of history, don't complain when
people who want to see them gone get them and their power working for them
in creating "anti-jeep" sentiment.

Now, let's please let this die! The only way to change things is to do
something about it. Run for office or lobby those who are there, anything
else is just beating a dead horse

That's all from here!
John Edwards
'53 M38A1
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You must make your choice.
Either this man was, and is,
The Son of God; or else a madman
or something worse.
You can shut Him up for a fool,
You can spit at Him
and kill Him as a demon,
or you can fall at His feet
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-----Original Message-----
From: Antoine Compin <acompin@earthlink.net>
To: Jon Shoop <shoop19@idt.net>
Cc: Mil-Veh@skylee.com <Mil-Veh@skylee.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 10:31 PM
Subject: [MV] Re: (need to changet the subject!)

>Now we've heard it all! This whole thing might just be part of
>the FED conspiracy to deprive us from our rights... Go tell that
>one to the parents of the three kids wounded to-day...
>
>Antoine
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Jon Shoop <shoop19@idt.net>
>To: Antoine Compin <antoine@usa.net>
>Cc: <Mil-Veh@skylee.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 5:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [MV] News-Mil Veh Imports to US
>
>
>> Yes..interesting....everytime the FED considers more usless
>Gun
>> Control........BOOM...an insane fool shoots up the
>place...reminded of the
>> Idiot who shot at the White House the day the Gun Control,
>Brady act was
>> being debated.....makes you wonder...
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> MVPA Member...
>>
>> At 03:39 PM 7/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Breaking News, and another outrage: yet another mass shooting
>> >just happened:
>> >A 40 year-old white man in green fatigues just shot five
>people
>> >in a Jewish
>> >community center (Museum of Tolerance, of all places...) in
>> >Granada Hills, CA... Flak jackets and militia-type equipment,
>> >UZI and ammo were found
>> > in a red van at the site according to the news... 5 people
>> >fighting for their lives,
>> >including three children!!!
>> >
>> >I would respectfully ask my fellow listees to note
>> >under their signature if they are MVPA members or not. It
>would
>> >help identify the people with whom I (or others) would be
>> >interested in carrying off-list this discussion with...
>> >
>> >Now, to all of you out there nostalgics of Waco and Ruby
>> >Ridge...
>> >
>> >I want to quote a snippet of dialogue from "EASY RIDER". It's
>> >between Dennis Hopper and Jack Nicholson at their camp site,
>> >after the scene at the diner, and in substance it is:
>> >QUOTE
>> >Nicholson to Hopper: "What you represent to them is freedom"
>> >Hopper: "what's wrong with that?"
>> >Nicholson: "Nothing...but talking about it and being it are
>two
>> >different things. It's "real hard to be free when you are
>bought
>> >and sold in the marketplace"...[...]
>> >"But don't ever tell anybody they aren't free because they're
>> >gonna get real busy "killing and maiming to prove to you that
>> >they are... Oh yeah! they're gonna talk to "you, and talk to
>> >you, and talk to you about individual freedom, but they see a
>> >free "individual, it's gonna scare them...It makes them
>> >dangerous"
>> >END OF QUOTE
>> >
>> >Antoine Compin
>> >
>> >1943 Willys MB & '44 MBT
>> >1942 Harley WLA
>> >1942 Harley XA (two)
>> >MVPA 14803 - MVCG (France)
>> >http://www.freehomepages.com/antoine
>> >and below is a preview of coming attractions:
>> >SNIP
>> >
>> >> Pretty hard nosed and extreme there, aren't we? No, just
>fed
>> >up with the FED and right on target.
>> >
>> >> You guys have it all wrong...my opinion...why should we
>accept
>> >less then
>> >> 100% of the pie? Just who the hell are these pencilheads
>> >making all these
>> >> decisions...being paid with my tax dollars......and taking
>my
>> >freedom away
>> >> from me....for some handout of some false sense of
>> >security.....?
>> >>
>> >> Be prepared to justify everything you do if you let these
>> >geeks get away
>> >> with this.
>> >>
>> >> You need to get your chapter members together and call on
>your
>> >Congressman
>> >> and Senator..let him know you will not accept any
>compromise
>> >on your
>> >> freedom,,,NONE!
>> >>
>> >> A line does have to drawn in the sand.....no more
>> >compromises...or just
>> >> give it up for your grand kids..they will be ruled......not
>> >governed. That
>> >> is the future, my friends.
>> >...
>> >SNIP
>> >>
>> >> Show what.......we are a responsible group and need to
>PROVE
>> >NOTHING
>> >> ..NOTHING. YOU don't get it....in a free country you are
>> >presumed
>> >> innocent.....or free, until you trespass........or proved
>> >guilty! .THATS IT!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> CRAZY,.,.,.......how the hell will you Prove you have no
>evil
>> >> intentions???????????????????????????????????????????????
>> >>
>> >> >SNIP
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Reality check: The political climate is absolutely
>against
>> >us.
>>
>> >>
>> >> WHO SAYS....some ass at BATF.......the same guys that along
>> >with the
>> >> FBI...fried women and children a few years ago....and were
>> >caught lying
>> >> about it...............................................
>> >> >
>> >> >Alas, it is true and I won't dwell on the reasons why...
>> >> >
>> >> >SNIP>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> This all sucks...better warm up your phones...and write
>> >letters...the
>> >> computer is very powerful....WRITE...and keep your powder
>> >dry........you
>> >> might need it.......
>> >>
>> >> Jon Shoop
>> >>
>> >> One more thing...in a compromise world with these
>people...you
>> >just loose a
>> >> little at a time...but know it. and know it now, you will
>lose
>> >it
>> >> all..eventually!
>> >
>>
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