I agree with most everything mentioned about the Humvee being destroyed
instead of sold as a bunch of BS. Torwards the end of the M151A2's career,
Jeep/Chrysler had the same thing done to the M151A2s. Rather than being
sold intact, that had to be cut and/or crushed. This is the same thing that
has to be done to the Humvee.
One thing the government has always been good at is giving out excuses as
to why it does or does not do things. Unfortunatly, all the complaining and
whining does not do any good. The only way to get this changed is to write
your congressmen, and hope they will listen. Change with the government is
a very slow thing, and with the way things have been done so far, they'll
probably OK the sale long after the Humvee is obsolete.
This is just a sidebar, unconfirmed obeservation on my part. I recall AM
General was very reluctant to built the first civilian Hummer for
Arnold...it took a lot of convincing and politics to get it done. The
civillian Hummer does take considerable resources for AM General, there's a
lot more involved to them than a military one, as it has more 'comfort
creatures.'
Another question is; who owns the patent/design for the Humvee? In the
past, the DoD designed the vehicles, and contracted different companies to
build them; hence the trouble we've had in the past identifing who build a
particluar M54, (was it Reo, Diamond-T, Mack, International Harvester,
etc?), which impossible to do without a dataplate because the all look the
same on the outside. Perhaps AM General built the civilian version of the
Hummer so they can patent/trademark the design of it, and reduce competition?
At 08:01 12/5/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Really one of the big things with the civilian model is maintance problems
>such as brakes air conditioning axle and various others and lot of dealers
>with poor service I have a friend that had 2 new one that AMG baught back
>under the lemon laws so itsAMG's problem not the problem of used Military
>units hitting the street.Did used Jeeps hurt the Jeep market it just made
>it stronger.It was AMG that didnt know how to build a dealer network and
>follow up with good service and build a product that the civilian market
>could use without in being in the shop every week.
>Carl
>
>Daniel Terp wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 21:41:21 -0600, you wrote:
>>
>> >> Evidently AMGeneral is
>> >>pitching a monumental bitch to the DOD about these things hitting the
>> >>market, because it is killing their Civillian HUMMER market.....
>>
>> That's a crock. What's killing the Hummer market is that all the
>> yuppies and stockbrokers that wanted to look "cool" have moved on to
>> new toys.
>>
>> Besides, the Hummer is a bitch to park at a suburban shopping mall,
>> and the fashion model girlfriends don't like to ride in them.
>>
>> Patience, boys, there will be Hummers aplenty in god's own good time-
>>
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