Stuart,
I couldn't agree more!! If I want to read about politics, I'll either grab a
newspaper or join a List that specializes in the subject. I read this List
to find out about HMV's. By the way, why does the person who posted that
item believe that every member of this List wants Bush to win? I'm not
saying how I voted, but it seems as though he's making quite an assumption.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Ellis [mailto:stuellis@mediaone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 7:24 AM
To: mil-veh@mil-veh.org
Subject: Re: [MV] Election Solution
Why is political junk being posted to this list? This is against all the
rules. So anyone can post any subject they want? Is that how it works
now?
It has been my mistaken belief that everyone agreed to follow the rules to
be part of this list. Maybe we should change the list name to MV's and
Politics.
Stuart J. Ellis
East Coast Sales Manager
Intraco USA
Web Site: www.intraco.com.sg
Phone: 603-437-1392 Fax: 603-437-6046
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----- Original Message -----
From: <RKiser8375@aol.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 8:06 AM
Subject: [MV] Election Solution
> > Herewith is some practical advice on action that every citizen can take
> > in the event that the Florida recount confirms the election of George
> > Bush, but Al Gore fails to concede.
> >
> > We all know what is going on in Florida, and that the election hinges
> on
> > the outcome. I am writing you today to prepare us all for what we
> > consider doing if what I think is going to happen actually does. The
> > recount, which will be finished by 5 p.m. Thursday or Friday, will
> > likely show Bush to be the winner once again, with only a few thousand
> > overseas ballots to be counted. Those ballots will be overwhelmingly
> for
> > Bush, a minimum of 60% and probably closer to 75% if history repeats
> > itself. If the count goes this way, the Republicans have won this
> > election.
> >
> > This is when something critical happens. Either Gore bows out
> gracefully
> > or he doesn't, and it appears that he won't. These are people wedded to
> > power who will only go down kicking and screaming. They will use every
> > legal maneuver in the book to steal the election. (In 1960, when
> Richard
> > Nixon had every right and reason to challenge the election results he
> > didn't for the sake of the country. Expect no such noble behavior this
> > time.) What will they try? One bet is to find a friendly judge to
> throw
> > out the Florida results on a flimsy premise. They are already floating
> > this as a trial balloon in the form of the allegedly "confusing"
> ballots
> > in Palm Beach County. I have seen the ballots - they are not
> confusing
> > in the least. Indeed, they are identical in form to the punch-card
> > ballots used in Chicago and Cook County, Illinois, in this very
> > election. What's more, it is just as likely that Palm Beach County
> > voters who wanted to vote for Bush inadvertently voted for Nader. All
> > parties approved the form of ballot before the election. The
> > form-of-ballot issue is a mere pretext for an effort a judicial
> > invalidation of the Florida election.
> >
> > While I hope this scenario doesn't come to pass, I fear that it will,
> > and it will only have disastrous results for the country. The election
> > fight could drag on for months and actually be decided by a court! If
> > this comes to pass the vision of our Founders and the blood of patriots
> > will have been betrayed.
> >
> > Personally, I don't intend to stand for this, and I hope you won't
> > either. The good news is that we are not without voice.
> >
> > HERE IS WHAT MUST BE DONE: if the vote count affirms Bush's election,
> we
> > allow a short grace period to see the reaction of the Gore camp. If
> they
> > have not graciously conceded after a few hours, we must bombard the
> news
> > media and our public officials AT EVERY LEVEL with phone calls of
> > outrage that demand Gore's concession. I mean literally millions of
> > phone calls. We must jam their phone banks with calls. There are
> > millions of us so it shouldn't be too difficult. (While you're at it,
> > send e-mails to your local newspapers as well.)
> >
> > If it becomes widely reported - and it will - that there is a
> > groundswell demanding that Gore back down and not embarrass the
> country,
> > it will be very difficult for Gore to withstand the pressure. He will
> > have to relent.
> >
> > Here are some places to start:
> >
> > The White House:
> > telephone (202) 456-4114
> > FAX:(202)456-2461
> > e-mail: president@whitehouse.gov <mailto:president@whitehouse.gov>
> >
> > The Vice President's Office:
> > telephone:(202) 274-5000
> > FAX:(202) 456-2883
> > e-mail: vice.president@whitehouse.gov
> > <mailto:vice.president@whitehouse.gov>
> >
> > Vice President's Senate Office: telephone: (202) 224-2424
> >
> > Senator Tom Daschle (Senate Democratic Leader): (202) 224-2321
> > Also: (202) 224-5556
> >
> > Representative Dick Gephardt (House Democratic Leader): (202) 225-2671
> > Also: (202) 225--0100
> >
> > Also, be sure to call your congressmen and both your senators. All
> these
> > numbers are easily located on voter.com. You can also contact them
> > through the U.S. Capitol Switchboard:
> >
> > U.S. Capitol Switchboard (all Senators and Representatives): (202)
> > 224-3121
> >
> > Another office to call is that of Chicago's Mayor Richard M. Daley (the
> > brother of Gore's campaign manager, Bill Daley):
> > Telephone: (312) 744-3300
> > FAX: (312) 744-2324
> >
> > If you've never made a call like this, there's no reason to be shy.
> They
> > get opinion calls all the time and are set up to take them. In fact
> they
> > like calls. It helps them tell which way the wind is blowing.
> >
> > Some media contacts:
> >
> > Boston Globe
> > (617) 929-2000
> > Matthew V. Storin, Editor
> > (617) 929-3049
> > e-mail: storin@globe.com <mailto:storin@globe.com>
> >
> > Boston Herald
> > Andrew Costello, Editor
> > (617) 619-6400
> > e-mail: acostello@bostonherald.com <mailto:acostello@bostonherald.com>
> >
> > Chicago Sun-Times:
> > (312) 321-3000
> > Michael Cooke, Editor in Chief
> > e-mail: mcooke@suntimes.com <mailto:mcooke@suntimes.com>
> >
> > Chicago Tribune
> > (800) 874-2863
> > Howard A. Tyner, Editor
> > e-mail: ChiEd@aol.com <mailto:ChiEd@aol.com> <mailto:ChiEd@aol.com
> > Bruce Dold, Editorial Page Editor
> > e-mail: bdold@tribune.com <mailto:bdold@tribune.com>
> >
> > Los Angeles Times
> > (213) 237-7935 (opinion department)
> > (213) 237-4511 and Fax: (213) 237-7679 (letters to the editor) (202)
> > 293-4650 (Washington bureau)
> > www.latimes.com <http://www.latimes.com>
> >
> > New York Post
> > (212) 930-8000
> > John Mancini, News
> > e-mail: jmancini@nypost.com <mailto:jmancini@nypost.com>
> >
> > New York Times
> > (212) 556-1234
> > Joseph Lelyveld, Executive Editor
> > Letters to the Editor
> > fax: (212) 556-3622
> > e-mail: letters@nytimes.com <mailto:letters@nytimes.com>
> >
> > Philadelphia Inquirer
> > (215) 854-4500
> > Letters to the editor:
> > Inquirer.Letters@phillynews.com
> <mailto:Inquirer.Letters@phillynews.com>
> >
> > USA Today
> > (703) 276-3400
> > Karen Jurgenson, Editor
> > www.usatoday.com <http://www.usatoday.com>
> >
> > Washington Post
> > (202) 334-6000
> > Fred Hiatt, Editorial Page Editor
> > e-mail: hiattf@washpost.com <mailto:hiattf@washpost.com>
> >
> > Time
> > e-mail: letters@time.com <mailto:letters@time.com>
> >
> > ABC
> > http://abc.go.com/abc/help/contact.html
> > <http://abc.go.com/abc/help/contact.html>
> >
> > CNN
> > (404) 827-1500
> >
> > CBS
> > (212) 975-4321
> >
> > MSNBC
> > e-mail: World@MSNBC.com <mailto:World@MSNBC.com>
> >
> > NBC-Nightly News: e-mail: Nightly@NBC.com <mailto:Nightly@NBC.com>
> >
> > NBC Today Show: e-mail: Today@NBC.com <mailto:Today@NBC.com>
> >
> > I'm hoping none of this will be necessary, but I fear otherwise. As
> > Edmund Burke said, the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. This
> > e-mail is just to prepare you for the battle that should be engaged.
> >
> > PLEASE FORWARD THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE TO EVERYONE YOU CAN THINK OF. IF
> > WE HARNESS THE POWER OF THE INTERNET, BY TOMORROW MILLIONS OF US WILL
> BE
> > READY!
>
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