Sorry Dave,
The whole deal with the Israelis anfd the Palestinians is not that clear cut, in fact it is quite complicated.
If you are realy interested, then feel free to do the research, But please, let's not start digging into that can of worms,
when there is still a lot to be done to help the people who have been suffering from this disaster. Even though I know
a fair amount about this issue, I am purposefully refraining to discuss it, so that we can concentrate on helping the people that need it the most.
Bruce
MVPA 23824
DaveCole wrote:
> First of all I'd like to say that whoever did the terrorist acts that resulted in the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon must be tracked down and brought to justice. I watched the second collision of the WTC live on TV while I packed my kids lunch - and I now know why they are called terrorists. The chill that ran down my back when I suddenly realized that the country
> was under attack and that the first collision was no accident - will never be forgotten.
>
> Secondly I would like to suggest that Osama Bin Laden or any person who engages in this kind of atrocity is actually not a Muslim at all. He is no more a Muslim than Timothy Mcveigh was a Christian. No good Muslim would ever do to other humans, what was done by the terrorists who launched the attack on the US. As in every faith, there are extremists who use religion as
> a stepping stone to convince people to do things they should know are evil. Osama Bin Laden or whoever did this atrocity to America is a terrorist, a mass murderer with a mission, nothing more.
>
> Israel is a real can of worms. If you were a Palestinian confined in a secured occupied territory and had to witness helicopter gunships and tanks supplied and made by America help destroy your villages, you might be just a bit pissed off at the supplier of the arms and aid. When was the last time you saw Palestinian helicopters and tanks attack Israel? They don't
> have any. The Israelis are shooting fish in a barrel when they take gunships and tanks into occupied territories. Palestinian throw rocks and Israelis open up with automatic weapons fire. Not exactly a fair conflict! The US supplies aid to Israel in amazing amounts. The last time I checked it was roughly $2000 per Israeli citizen, that is the documented US aid. If
> you don't believe me, check it out yourself. I believe I last saw the figures on the CIA website! (Your tax dollars at work!)
>
> Why we support Israel is beyond me. In that regard we have made ourselves a target. Jews, Muslims, and Christians were living peacefully next to each other before 1948 when outside forces decided to make Palestine into a Jewish state. Now we pretty much stand alone in our assistance to Israel. I now have a hard time distinguishing which side has the most terrorists.
> However it is clear to me who is who is the occupier and who is the occupied. Palestinians are at best, second class citizens in Israel and when locked down, they are simply prisoners. It is not a lot different than Apartheid in South Africa. Why do you think these people have the desperation to strap on explosives and kill themselves? It sure isn't because they want
> to be good Muslims. People who are willing to kill themselves for a cause are a very dangerous and very difficult to stop. They are the ultimate smart bomb.
>
> We should not equate Muslims with terrorists anymore than we equate Christians or Jews with terrorists. I didn't hear an outpouring of comments against Christianity when Timothy Mcveigh was caught. And most Christians are aware that all sins will be forgiven if we believe in Jesus. (Talk about an opportunity for religious extremists!; I can do whatever I want and
> still go to heaven!)
>
> I sure hope Timothy is burning in Hell as are the terrorists that took down the WTCs.
>
> Dave
>
> >
> > BALLS! This is not a Flame, Cougar, but terrorists like Osama Ben Laden
> > do not care what we do, say, or think half way around the world from
> > their miserable, dusty, fleabitten, impoverished piece of dirt. While we
> > value all those wonderful (and they really are wonderful) freedoms to
> > engage in life, liberty, and the pursuit of hapiness, what motivates
> > these terrorists is the fact that the USA is the largest, strongest
> > supporter of Israel, whom they are sworn to destroy! Its just that
> > simple. We support the nation of the people who moved into land which
> > they had owned for centuries. They, on the other hand, have lost their
> > Soviet backers and they feel powerless. Therefore they wrap themselves
> > in the cloak of religious fanaticism and, believing in the promise of a
> > heaven filled with virgins and sweetmeats, happily join their little
> > team and engage in Islam's version of the Kamakazi.
> >
> > I just hope that the armed forces get the opportunity, real soon, to
> > help large numbers of Mr. Ben Ladens merry band on their way to heaven.
> > Only then would I heartily chime in on their favourite mantra - Allah
> > Akbar - God is Great!
> >
> > Just My Two Cents
> > Mel Miller
> > 2 X M725
> >
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