From: Colin Macgregor Stevens (cmstevens@telus.net)
Date: Mon Feb 18 2002 - 07:08:26 PST
Normally I keep out of the US legislative concerns. I offer the following
Canadian experience in case it may be useful,
About 25 years ago the Province of Saskatchewan embarked on a mobile car
crusher program to clean up the old hulks. It was a free service to those
with old cars on their farms etc. The crusher people had a contract and got
to sell the "cubes" as I recall.
Car collectors were saddened because many restorable vehicles and parts
vehicles were crushed.What was worse is that the crusher operators REFUSED
to allow anything to be saved, and even crushed a Boat-tail Auburn car which
a collector was trying to save.
If anything like that starts to rear its head in your state, I suggest that
clubs lobby to be included in the process. A hotline so that crusher
operators can alert clubs to interesting vehicles, a want list posted with
crusher operators, a method of collectors being able to buy vehicles for
restoration or parts and save them from the crusher.
Lots of complications of course e.g. crusher is at a farm site, and a
collectible vehicle is there, but collectors are not and as we know, it can
take time to find a buyer, even a bargain prices. If crusher goes away and
buyer does not come, then old hulk remains, and a return visit by crusher
would be expensive.
A program to alert owners of hulks would be good. Work with civy vintage car
clubs.
Colin Macgregor Stevens
cmstevens@telus.net
or (as second choice)
seaforth72@hotmail.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Ehle" <markehle@hotmail.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] U.S. Senate Bill Would Fund Private Vehicle Scrappage
Programs
> I did contact my 2 senators here in Michigan, telling them that I oppose
> this legislation.
>
> Here is what Debbie Stabenow replied with:
>
> ______________________________________________________
>
> Thank you . . .
>
> . . . for contacting my office with your opposition to Section 803 of the
> Energy Policy Act of 2002 (S. 1766). I appreciate that you have taken the
> time to make me aware of your views and concerns.
>
> I understand your concern with this bill. Please rest assured that the
> purpose of Section 803 is not to eliminate hobby or collector's vehicles,
> but to provide states with grant funding to establish a voluntary program
> for those who are looking for a financial incentive to get rid of older,
> less fuel efficient cars. This bill is currently on the Senate Legislative
> Calendar. I will keep your opinions on this in mind as it continues
through
> the legislative process.
>
> Thank you again for contacting my office. Please feel free to contact me
> in the future if ever I can be of assistance to you and your family.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Debbie Stabenow
> United States Senator
>
> ________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: DDoyle9570@aol.com
> >To: <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> (Military Vehicles Mailing List)
> >Subject: [MV] U.S. Senate Bill Would Fund Private Vehicle Scrappage
> >Programs
> >Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:49:02 EST
> >
> >This is not an urban myth. The text of this bill can be found readily in
a
> >search of the Congressional Record.
> >
> >A bill (S.1766), authored by Senators Daschle (D-SD) and Bingaman (D-NM),
> >has
> >been introduced in the U.S. Senate containing a provision (Section 803)
> >that
> >would federally fund scrappage programs for vehicles over 15 years old.
> >Owners who turn in vehicles for crushing would receive a "minimal"
payment
> >and a future credit toward purchasing a newer vehicle, all in a misguided
> >attempt to improve the overall fuel economy of the country's vehicle
fleet.
> >This bill represents the most formidable Federal legislative threat to
the
> >vehicle hobby in many years. Oppose the Use of U.S. Taxpayer Dollars for
> >Scrappage.
> >
> >
> >
> >Section 803 of S.1766 would give states that do not currently operate
> >scrappage programs an extra incentive to create a program due to generous
> >federal funding
> >
> >
> >
> >Section 803 of S.1766 requires that federally funded state scrappage
> >programs
> >crush every car. It threatens enthusiasts nationwide with the loss of
> >valuable parts and parts-cars for repair and restoration, projects.
> >
> >
> >
> >Section 803 of S.1766 does not require states to determine the fuel
> >efficiency of vehicles being scrapped or that scrapped vehicles are being
> >replaced by more fuel-efficient vehicles.
> >
> >
> >
> >Section 803 of S.1766 ignores the fact that cars turned in for scrappage
> >often barely run or are rarely driven second or third vehicles that have
a
> >minimal impact on overall fuel economy.
> >
> >
> >
> >Section 803 of S.1766 will diminish the availability of affordable
> >transportation and repair to low-income drivers as more and more older
cars
> >are crushed.
> >
> >
> >
> >Section 803 of S.1766 does not guarantee that low-income individuals will
> >be
> >able to afford to purchase new vehicles - let alone more efficient
vehicles
> >with the money provided by the scrappage programs.
> >
> >
> >
> >Section 803 of S.1766 ignores more socially responsible and
cost-effective
> >policy options like voluntary vehicle repair and upgrade programs that
> >maximize the fuel efficiency of existing vehicles.
> >
> >
> >
> >Contact Your U.S. Senators to Oppose Section 803 of S.1766.
> >
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