From: Fred Martin (mung@in-touch.net)
Date: Tue Mar 11 2003 - 02:20:09 PST
Bjorn...I would think (as a machinist) that you would have to anneal the
axle and remachine it to the new spline configuration and then heat
treat it again for lockouts. Then...what would control the end thrust on
this axle? Hmmm! Isn't re-engineering fun? If when designing these
things originally...the engineers had our input from here on this
board...wonder what the deuces would look like today? Good idea...for
the trucks to be designed by the guys who drove 'em, rode in 'em and
worked on 'em. You know...government by the people...for the people.
Cushions on troop seats for your hemis...drink holders on dash...move
that rifle mount somewhere else. Just talked to a fellow who drove one
in the Korean war (recently)and he said that they used to put a beer
down in the gas tank to cool it...(probably on a string or wire) and was
retrieving one in a convoy one day...and a Kernel jumped out of a jeep a
couple of vehicles back. Is that beer you got there? Could you spare
one? Cushhhh...there you go sir! (War is hell!) What would you change
on 'em? Fred Martin
Bjorn Brandstedt wrote:
> We'r having too much fun to listen to common sense.
>
> You could install a front-type locking hub in the rear by machining
> splines into the existing flange. You need to find a machine shop with a
> solid carbide hobbing (?) tool since the flange is hardened.
>
> Don't road tractors have locking interaxle differentials?
>
> Bjorn
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>> From: "Steve & Jeanne Keith" <cckw@attbi.com>
>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>,"Bjorn
>> Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?-Correction-
>> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:34:06 -0500
>>
>> This is very frustrating!!!!!!!!!!!! Does anyone in here listen?
>>
>> How many people in here have disabled one of the rear axles on a deuce
>> other
>> then me?
>>
>> You WILL NOT be satisfied with what you find happens!
>>
>> THE TRUCK WILL TEND TO GET STUCK VERY EASILY!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> In addition, I think you will be pounding on the drive train as the rears
>> tend to hop
>> a bit on a deuce and having only one with marginal traction will only
>> make
>> it worse IMO.
>>
>>
>> Steve AKA Dr Deuce
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?-Correction-
>>
>>
>> > Correction; removing the inter differential propeller shaft doesn't
>> change
>> > things, sorry.
>> > Bjorn
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: David Cole <DavidCole@tk7.net>
>> > >Reply-To: DavidCole@tk7.net
>> > >To: Bjorn Brandstedt <super_deuce@hotmail.com>, Military Vehicles
>> Mailing
>> > >List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> > >Subject: Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?
>> > >Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:38:23 -0500
>> > >
>> > >I was more worried about traction loss - which is the better axle to
>> > >disable, the front or the rear of the tandem. Seems at first
>> glance that
>> > >the front might be better to disable than the rear. I don't have
>> lockers
>> > >in either of my axles. It sure would be nice to have a lockable
>> coupling
>> > >in the interaxle drive shaft.
>> > >
>> > >Opinions?
>> > >
>> > >Dave
>> > >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >
>> > >On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:20:25 -0500, Bjorn Brandstedt
>> > ><super_deuce@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>David,
>> > >>For the purpose of eliminating any drag between the two rear
>> axles, it
>> > >>doesn't matter which axle/flange is replaced with a blank.
>> > >>Bjorn
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>From: David Cole <DavidCole@tk7.net>
>> > >>>To: <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> (Military Vehicles Mailing List)
>> > >>>Subject: Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?
>> > >>>Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:15:04 -0500
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Which axle would you remove? One from the front rear or one from
>> the
>> > >>>rear-rear?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:29:35 EST, <Recovry4x4@aol.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>You can net the same results here by removing one axle shaft. Same
>> > >>>>number of bolts but no nuts and no crawling under the truck. I
>> carry a
>> > >>>>small bowl to catch the little bit of gear oil that drips out. Once
>> done
>> > >>>>removing or installing the shaft I dump the gear oil (maybe an
>> ounce)
>> > >>>>into the fuel tank. Laugh if you will, Ive been doing it for
>> decades
>> > >>>>with big trucks without any problems. I do use a front drive
>> flange
>> as
>> > >>>>a cover when the shaft is removed.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>In a message dated 3/7/03 1:08:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> > >>>>mgmv@auroragroup.co.uk writes:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>If you are looking for major fuel savings for a long journey on
>> highway
>> > >>>>>roads then you can simply unbolt the rear prop shaft between
>> the two
>> > >>>>>rear axels so that it is only driving the middle axel. This
>> can make
>> > >>>>>massive fuel savings, but is only worth doing for long highway
>> > >>>>>journeys.
>> > >>>>
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>> > >>>
>> > >>>--
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