From: Richard Lathrop (lathrrs@snip.net)
Date: Thu Mar 13 2003 - 01:56:07 PST
Joe,
There is another ex-member of the list who is a NJ resident who went through the same thing.
In NJ as soon as there is a domestic complaint and guns are in the house they confiscate them for your safety.
I remember this law passing a couple of years ago. What has happened is that one of the parties of the dispute uses it as a ploy against another.
Sorry to see it happen to you and good luck. Don't want to rub salt in the wound but they probably slapped property stickers on the antiques and fired them for ballistics as well of course without cleaning them.
Rick
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: MVTrucker@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 03:03:10 -0500
>THEY were two NJ State Police officers. I asked my old lady to
>find a place to live, as I could no longer continue doing 24/7/365 home health aid. This was Friday, Dec, 13. Wednesday
>the 18th, her son and daughter-in-law came and picked Mar up
>and some of her belongings.Seems the daughter-in-law (not mine,
>she married Mar's son, not my son)was worried that I'd start trouble because Mar left. Why would I travel sixty miles to cause a problem, I had four days to do it here if I wanted to.
>10:10 PM; knock, knock. Spot lights, squad cars and two State
>Policemen. No papers, no search warrant, nothing, but they said they were here on a domestic violence complaint and
>terroristic threats. Cuffed me, put me in a car, carried out my thirty-three guns, shackled me to a steel bench at the barracks and served me paper 4:30 AM (the search warrant and
>other papers).Finger printed me. I have all the paperwork and
>permits for the handguns, the rest,mostly Civil War muskets
>and pistols. Almost all of the antiques were inherited from my father. I went to court in Jan., the domestic violence
>charge was dropped, but the terroristic threat is still pending (never, ever tell your old lady to get out and find a place to live}. Got tossed in a cell at the county jail, then
>"processed", you know, two more finger printings and mug shots.
>Breakfast was so bad, I slid the tray under the steel bench I
>was seated on. A cup of hot, black water, three pancakes (I later found the CoffeeMate and sugar packets under the pancakes), oatmeal that was probably made from horse oats, three slices of Bologna being passed off as sausage and
>some syrup. Had to roll the cakes up and dip them on the syrup in order to eat them. Plastic fork would not cut them.
>I was allowed to use a phone and raise the $10,000. cash bail.
>I have a letter stating that the prosecutor's office has filed
>with the courts to make claim of and dispose of my gun collection. I have a top-notch criminal lawyer on the case,
>which has cost me $19,500., so far, not counting the bail money
>or the money fronted to a matrimonial lawyer. Well, I can start
>collecting Social Security in April, so that'll help. I mentioned contacting the NRA,to my lawyer and he said the courts are more afraid of him then the NRA! As far as I'm
>concerned, lawmen entering my house, cuffing me and confiscating my person property, without warrants, is illegal.
>Welcome to the New World Order. This is probably only a taste
>of what's coming.Don't sweat the media hype about terrorism
>from foreign countries, this is just a ploy to distract Americans from our seriously deteriorating economy and the fact
>that our country is in deep trouble (check the Stock Market).
>We had two guard dogs at out motorcycle clubhouse. They were
>well taken care of, but the clubhouse is not a residence,so
>nobody lives there. These dogs are Malinois (Belgian Sheppards)
>and are very much in demand for law enforcement, drug and bomb
>sniffing. Somebody tipped the SPCA (or police) about the dogs, so they were confiscated. They then went to where we have a kennel which contained the mother and seven pups. Confiscated them. Cost us $2800. and a $750. fine to get the dogs back yesterday (court appearance required).
>Just to make things more interesting, a fire inspection was
>pulled on our clubhouse. They cited thirty-one violations and
>we face a $1,000. fine if we conduct a meeting there. That's
>$1,000. every time we step foot in there for other than repairs. They raided us, took our names, addresses
>and SS#s. Another thou out the window. We were only meeting to discuss what we had to do to bring the clubhouse up to spec.
>NJ, land of the free(loaders). Drop your rights at our borders.
>Joe "sometimes I wonder what keeps me from going under" Young
>
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