From: R. A. Moir aka RAM (cyclopsram@starband.net)
Date: Tue Apr 08 2003 - 10:43:14 PDT
I suppose the M915 series of CCC trucks would qualify... the 400 HP Cummins
mated to the lamo Caterpillar air operated transmission and not fitted with
a air dryer or filter ..I believe I got a glimpse of a couple of them in a
convoy.... RAM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronzo" <rojoha@attbi.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:49
Subject: [MV] List of Inadequate Eqiupment used in Iraq
>
> Hey all !!
> How about starting a list of equipment used by Uncle Sugar in Iraq
that
> was deemed uneconomical, too complicated or expensive to maintain, or just
> not sexy enough to keep in the inventory, but seems to do just fine in
bogus
> conditions.
>
> Things like:
>
> 1) A10 Thunderbolt II (aka Warthog) [obsolete, no "GEE WHIZ" factor]
> 2) M113 family of APCs [unreliable, too slow]
> 3) M35A2 trucks [too expensive to maintain, obsolete]
> 4) SUSV [no planned invasion of Norway in near future?]
> 5) M151 {one reported sighting}
> 6) B52 {Block one aircraft frame found in Le Brea tar pits in
> 1873]
> 7) Commercial vehicles Like the International Box trucks seen
> accompanying the 3rd ID deep in the desert (Sand tan cab, big white boxes
> with power tailgates)
>
> How about unworkable concepts that the brains at Fort Fumble say are too
old
> to work.....
>
> Marines..... for amphibious assaults only, close to the shore line
,
> supposedly ineffective for deep penetration. Presently 150 miles into Iraq
> because:
> 1) Army Generals forget about them, didn't notice they will soon
> overrun Baghdad, then continue through Turkey, Balkans, France and
Germany,
> pacifying all countries encountered and reaching English Channel before
> reaching the point where they only have 5 days of supplies left and are
> manadatorily required to call the Pentagon for resupply. If they go to
half
> rations, they could cross the Atlantic and take Quebec, which would get
more
> of the Canadians to back us. This is because, Marines, being rather, shall
> we say, "literal minded", were told "The only way home is through
Baghdad".
>
> 2) They are USUALLY told to stop when they run out of beach sand
> and let the Army land and pass through them. Still got sand under treads.
If
> not careful they may get pissed when Baghdad falls and make a right turn
> when sent back to reload on ships in Kuwait, taking the entire Arabian
land
> mass and settling the Palestinian and other geographic problems specific
to
> that AoR.
> (Hope they don't send the second MEF north that they unloaded last
week,
> since they already been afloat for six months and might be a bit more
testy
> than the Marines already in Iraq..... they might just seize the Soviet
Union
> for spite and then we'd have all them Russians on US welfare and rebuild
> payment plans)
>
> Maintaining amphibious off load capability generic to the Army, such
as
> the landing craft, LSTs and barges and Tugboats recently handed over to
DRMS
> for disposal since we have......
> a) Lots of Army Divisions on ships that require piers to
unload....since
> we got allies all over the place that will let us transit their country,
who
> needs barges,eh?
> b) Lots of C5's and C17's and soooo many allied airfields all over
the
> place with long term usage agreements.
>
> Putting all the GEE WHIZ electronics only in the equipment state side,
> not the forward deployed stuff. Since we can rapidly load and transit an
> entire division and reach ANYPLACE in the world in 21 DAYS from the GO
> order. Then sit around for 4 weeks looking for dock space.(Hmmm...where
did
> I put that landing craft thingy that the Marines used?)
>
>
>
> Any others?
>
>
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