From: Steve & Jeanne Keith (cckw@attbi.com)
Date: Thu Apr 17 2003 - 12:00:40 PDT
What you said was:
>Later boxes have bevel cut or angle cut gears which mesh with much less
>grinding "crashing" during input.
The implication is that the bevel gears slide which they don't. The dogs
slide and
yes a CCKW crashbox will make bad noises if not double-clutched. The noises
will not be nearly as bad as with the Dodge, Ford, Chev trannys with
straight cut
gears due to the number of teeth or dogs that clash with eash other.
I have both and the CCKW tranny is much easier to double clutch. It is
however
a beach to work on. I can assemble a Chevy tranny blindfolded...
Steve AKA Dr Deuce
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ball" <vought@msn.com>
To: "Steve & Jeanne Keith" <cckw@attbi.com>; "Military Vehicles Mailing
List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] crash box transmissions
> Sorry Steve you yourself say the CCKW has to be double clutched in all
gears
> going up that makes it a crash box or in other words if you do not double
> clutch the gears will "crash". The early Clark 5 speed is a crash box with
> beveled gears and dogs these are not syncro's if they were it would not be
a
> crash box.
> I did not say bevel cut gear boxes were not crash boxes just that they had
> less crashing.
> I said that Crash box is a generic term given to early boxes with straight
> cut gears but if you want me to put it in specific terms then fine crash
> boxes are any gear box with out syncros there your CCKW has a crash box
> happy.
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve & Jeanne Keith" <cckw@attbi.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>; "David Ball"
> <vought@msn.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] crash box transmissions
>
>
> > Not correct.
> >
> > The crachboxes with beveled gears have the dog clutches
> > like the CCKW tranny. The bevel gears create a thrust that
> > would make it jump out of gear if the gear was not locked
> > in place with a snap ring and a dog clutch used for engagement.
> >
> > Steve AKA Dr Deuce
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Ball" <vought@msn.com>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MV] crash box transmissions
> >
> >
> > > Many Early Vehicles have crash box transmissions this a a generic term
> for
> > > any gear box with straight cut gears that "crash" when meshed during
> > input.
> > > Later boxes have bevel cut or angle cut gears which mesh with much
less
> > > grinding "crashing" during input.
> > > Then the latest gear boxes with syncros have bevel cut gears and the
> > syncros
> > > match the gear speeds at input and solve all "crashing" but some
unlucky
> > > miss shift grinding "crashing".
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark Copeland" <copeland313@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 6:45 AM
> > > Subject: [MV] crash box transmissions
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've done some research on the Canadian built Ford F15
> > > > (http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/cmp15.htm). The
> > > > truck has a "crash box transmission". Could someone
> > > > please explain to me what that is?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Mark J. Copeland
> > > > MVPA #23916
> > > > Webmaster, First Florida Chapter
> > > > Military Vehicle Preservation Association
> > > > http://www.flmvpa.org
> > > >
> > > >
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