From: Marc Strangfeld (curlyjoe98@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat Jul 19 2003 - 00:58:22 PDT
Mr. Garbee and list,
I wholeheartedly agree with your concerns. On a
humorous/sarcastic note, the next time I screw up my
alignment on a pot hole I'll blame it on the
offhighway fuel bandits. The last thing I want to see
is the poor DOT get victimized by some farmer cheating
them out of $2.00. To offset this problem I have a
solution. Phase out the massive fleets of civilian
dumptrucks Mack, Sterling, Freightliner etc. And buy
up the military surplus for pennies on the dollar. I
know, the heavy truck market would suffer, but
wouldn't it be funny to see some ticked off highway
worker lumbering around in an old repainted (orange,
or lime green, take your pick) M54. Bet that AWD
would really plow snow.
These comments are merely a humorous way to look at
it. I don't exactly believe this would work and mean
no insult to the DOT or highway crews. My grandfather
was on various town boards and such so I grew up
hearing him complain about certain road crew issues,
his joke/solution was to put spikes on the end of the
shovel handles.
Marc
--- cgarbee@ipass.net wrote:
> The subject of off highway and highway fuel seems to
> pop up on this list with
> some fequency and it bothers me a bit every time
> somebody mentions running off-
> highway fuel on the highway...
>
> I work for the NCDOT.
>
> We, like other state Departments of Transportation,
> get all our funding from
> highway use fees (gas/diesel taxes), vehicle
> title/tag fees, and other such
> fees (but not the property taxes on the vehicle).
>
> We, like other state Dartments of Transportation, do
> not get funding from
> income taxes (state, local, or federal) or property
> taxes.
>
> Local/City roads may be funded from other sources,
> but funding for some of
> these in other states may also be provided by State
> or Federal DOT funds... In
> my state, there are no County Roads since they are
> all under the State DOT
> jurisdiction. There are City Roads though.
>
> Having said the above, if you run off-highway fuel
> in your truck to avoid
> paying the taxes on the fuel you are robbing your
> Transportation Department of
> funds needed to improve/maintain the system that you
> are driving on... Avoid
> paying the tax and you may not get caught and have
> to pay the civil penalty,
> but you are reducing the funds available for pothole
> patching, resurfacing,
> signage, snow/ice removal, widening, bridge
> replacemet, new routes, ect.
>
> Just something to think about next time you fill
> up...
>
> Obviously, this is a personal statement and does not
> necessarily reflect the
> views of my employer... etc. etc...
>
> Also, your state DOT might do things a little
> differently than mine...
>
> C. Garbee
> www.garbee.net/~cabell
> '53 USMC M37 with Cummins 4BT
> '51 USA M38
>
>
> Quoting rertman@ix.netcom.com:
>
> > Jim:
> >
> > The chances of being stopped for a fuel color
> check in your private diesel
> > pickup or car are very small, but not zero. In
> the 30+ years I've owned
> > diesel cars and pickups, I've never been subjected
> to a fuel color check.
> > So, as some wise person once said, "Ya pays yer
> money and takes yer
> > chances."
> >
> > Dick
> >
> > Jim Newton wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All...
> > >
> > > Has ANYONE on this list ever been stopped by a
> law enforcement officer
> > > in your diesel powered private vehicle and asked
> to submit to a fuel
> > > color inspection?
> > >
> > > I can see this happening to big rig drivers
> (maybe even regularly at a
> > > truck scale or inspection station), but
> non-commercial vehicles?
> > >
> > > In California, the non-taxed red diesel is about
> $0.80 per gallon less
> > > than the #2 diesel! There's a station up north
> in Sebastopol right on
> > > 116 that has it right at the pump island next to
> the regular diesel
> > > and gasolines. No permit is required...you can
> just buy it, even with
> > > your credit card right at the pump.
> > >
> > > >Skince you plan to use it in a generator, you
> can probably buy the fred
> > > >colored diesel for off-road use (contructiin
> macninery, farm macnbinery,
> > > >etc.), but you may need a special permit to buy
> it. Don't get caught
> > > >using it in a gruck on the road. The fine will
> make ytou wish you'd
> > > >gotten the permit.
> > > >
> > > >Happy dieseling,
> > > >
> > > >Dick
> > > >John Deere 1070
> > > >Case 580E
> > > >Dodge/Cummins diesel pickup.
> > > >
> > > >
>
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