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Date: Sat Jul 19 2003 - 07:17:10 PDT
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Strangfeld" <curlyjoe98@yahoo.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] diesel fuel questions (a solution to road tax)
> Mr. Garbee and list,
>
> I wholeheartedly agree with your concerns. On a
> humorous/sarcastic note, the next time I screw up my
> alignment on a pot hole I'll blame it on the
> offhighway fuel bandits. The last thing I want to see
> is the poor DOT get victimized by some farmer cheating
> them out of $2.00. To offset this problem I have a
> solution. Phase out the massive fleets of civilian
> dumptrucks Mack, Sterling, Freightliner etc. And buy
> up the military surplus for pennies on the dollar. I
> know, the heavy truck market would suffer, but
> wouldn't it be funny to see some ticked off highway
> worker lumbering around in an old repainted (orange,
> or lime green, take your pick) M54. Bet that AWD
> would really plow snow.
>
> These comments are merely a humorous way to look at
> it. I don't exactly believe this would work and mean
> no insult to the DOT or highway crews. My grandfather
> was on various town boards and such so I grew up
> hearing him complain about certain road crew issues,
> his joke/solution was to put spikes on the end of the
> shovel handles.
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> --- cgarbee@ipass.net wrote:
> > The subject of off highway and highway fuel seems to
> > pop up on this list with
> > some fequency and it bothers me a bit every time
> > somebody mentions running off-
> > highway fuel on the highway...
> >
> > I work for the NCDOT.
> >
> > We, like other state Departments of Transportation,
> > get all our funding from
> > highway use fees (gas/diesel taxes), vehicle
> > title/tag fees, and other such
> > fees (but not the property taxes on the vehicle).
> >
> > We, like other state Dartments of Transportation, do
> > not get funding from
> > income taxes (state, local, or federal) or property
> > taxes.
> >
> > Local/City roads may be funded from other sources,
> > but funding for some of
> > these in other states may also be provided by State
> > or Federal DOT funds... In
> > my state, there are no County Roads since they are
> > all under the State DOT
> > jurisdiction. There are City Roads though.
> >
> > Having said the above, if you run off-highway fuel
> > in your truck to avoid
> > paying the taxes on the fuel you are robbing your
> > Transportation Department of
> > funds needed to improve/maintain the system that you
> > are driving on... Avoid
> > paying the tax and you may not get caught and have
> > to pay the civil penalty,
> > but you are reducing the funds available for pothole
> > patching, resurfacing,
> > signage, snow/ice removal, widening, bridge
> > replacemet, new routes, ect.
> >
> > Just something to think about next time you fill
> > up...
> >
> > Obviously, this is a personal statement and does not
> > necessarily reflect the
> > views of my employer... etc. etc...
> >
> > Also, your state DOT might do things a little
> > differently than mine...
> >
> > C. Garbee
> > www.garbee.net/~cabell
> > '53 USMC M37 with Cummins 4BT
> > '51 USA M38
> >
> >
> > Quoting rertman@ix.netcom.com:
> >
> > > Jim:
> > >
> > > The chances of being stopped for a fuel color
> > check in your private diesel
> > > pickup or car are very small, but not zero. In
> > the 30+ years I've owned
> > > diesel cars and pickups, I've never been subjected
> > to a fuel color check.
> > > So, as some wise person once said, "Ya pays yer
> > money and takes yer
> > > chances."
> > >
> > > Dick
> > >
> > > Jim Newton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi All...
> > > >
> > > > Has ANYONE on this list ever been stopped by a
> > law enforcement officer
> > > > in your diesel powered private vehicle and asked
> > to submit to a fuel
> > > > color inspection?
> > > >
> > > > I can see this happening to big rig drivers
> > (maybe even regularly at a
> > > > truck scale or inspection station), but
> > non-commercial vehicles?
> > > >
> > > > In California, the non-taxed red diesel is about
> > $0.80 per gallon less
> > > > than the #2 diesel! There's a station up north
> > in Sebastopol right on
> > > > 116 that has it right at the pump island next to
> > the regular diesel
> > > > and gasolines. No permit is required...you can
> > just buy it, even with
> > > > your credit card right at the pump.
> > > >
> > > > >Skince you plan to use it in a generator, you
> > can probably buy the fred
> > > > >colored diesel for off-road use (contructiin
> > macninery, farm macnbinery,
> > > > >etc.), but you may need a special permit to buy
> > it. Don't get caught
> > > > >using it in a gruck on the road. The fine will
> > make ytou wish you'd
> > > > >gotten the permit.
> > > > >
> > > > >Happy dieseling,
> > > > >
> > > > >Dick
> > > > >John Deere 1070
> > > > >Case 580E
> > > > >Dodge/Cummins diesel pickup.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
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