From: Nigel Hay (Nigel@milweb.net)
Date: Tue Aug 26 2003 - 09:25:46 PDT
Curiously today a national BBC news item was about President Blairs army
having no armoured Landrovers in Iraq - but that a surplus dealer in the UK
has 150 of them ready for sale. There is no dealer in the UK with any
quantity of these, the BBC were told that when they called the largest
dealers for confirmation but they still ran with the story - so one suspects
that a Walter Mitty type of dealer hoping for some dodgy publicity has spun
them this yarn.
Nige
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Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] HMMWV v. idiots in government
> (In reply to the info. noted below)
>
> Very interesting info., thanks. It kinda sickens me
> to know this, but I'm still glad you explained it.
>
> So the HMMWVs are being crushed and none are being
> sold to the public. What a "typical" waste of our
> taxpayer dollars. It's an outrage and its being done
> under the radar so very few people will find out.
> Those rotten bastards... excuse me, but thats just how
> I feel about them.
>
> To my knowledge, not one of those 750 HMMWV's sold to
> the public has EVER been a problem to the government
> or anyone else. In fact most have been a positive
> impact on both buyers and sellers. It's been a
> totally positive experience to my knowledge and it
> should have been more than enough of an example to
> encourage the government to change its policy and
> allow more HMMWV's into the public secton to recoup
> some money and reduce their overhead.
>
> This brings up an old issue, the government is
> supposed to work for us. But, does it really?
>
> I know from a recent experience how litte "we the
> people" matter anymore. I was simply trying to show
> the DLA how to save a few million dollars and
> thousands of man-hours by a simple procedural change.
> Even with the support of my Congressman we were given
> the bums rush. We received nothing except
> bureaucratic responses which were non-answers. What
> was the change I suggested? Nothing much, just common
> sense, I suggested the DLA (surplus agency) should not
> use the E.U.C. (background check) on items commonly
> available off-the-shelf. How obvious is that? Duh-uh.
> But, noooo... they argued and held fast and we still
> have buyers of binoculars getting expensive background
> checks, buyers of trucks getting backgrounded, buyers
> of telephones.... and so it goes.
>
> Its amazing we are the great country we are today, but
> think what we could be if we could somehow get rid of
> those civil servant bureaucrats protecting their
> little fiefdoms!
>
>
> - - - wrote:
> > United Defense is the maker of the M109 Paladin Self
> > propelled gun, and they bid on the Humvees to
> rebuild them, but decided to sell them instead, and
> > there was nothing to prevent it. I am the guy that
> > picked out which Humvees United Defense would take.
> United Defense hired a private auction house to
> dispose of the Humvees, so there has still never been
> a
> > Government auction or release of Humvees. This is a
> small point, but it is important in that it limits the
>
> > likelihood of future batches of Humvees seeing the
> > light of day, and the Army is crushing Humvees
> everyday.
>
>
>
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