From: Dave Winslow \(Dad\) (David@Winslow.mv.com)
Date: Sat Sep 20 2003 - 10:38:08 PDT
From: "Mark Ehle" <markehle@hotmail.com>
> It's all about effiency. If you burn all the petroleum in one or a
few spots
> you can control how it burns much better that if you let it burn in
a
> bazillion little spots.
I don't think that makes any sense at all, technically or
economically. Bigger is better only up to a point, beyond which things
go the other way. In any case, what sort of monopoly would run your
super hydrogen production center(s), government? The guys who brought
us Homeland Security?
>You can condense the water vapor and drink it. Try
> that with the vapor that comes out of a gas engine.
Very nice but I have plenty of water, it falls from the sky.
> An all-hydrogen future is inevitable. What are you going to burn
when oil is
> gone? It's just a matter of time. Besides, you can generate hydrogen
from
> many difference sources other than petroleum. Petroluem come from,
well,
> petroleum.
I agree it looks like we will have plenty of hydrogen in the future,
but there are many intervening steps, and no authority that can simply
ordain it to be. Technology and industry moves in unpredictable ways,
and it doesn't seem to move much at all when one tries to control it.
> As far as natural balances goes, I would rather have zillions of
fuel cells
> than gas engines.
>
> Mark
My comment about balances has nothing to do with what you or I want,
but with unexpected consequences.
Dave W.
> >From: "Dave Winslow \(Dad\)" <David@Winslow.mv.com>
> >To: "Mark Ehle" <markehle@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: [MV] 20 years from now
> >Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:36:45 -0400
> >
> >From: "Mark Ehle" <markehle@hotmail.com>
> >
> > > If our leaders were smart, we'd be burning hydrogen.
> >
> >Where would you get all that hydrogen? From oil maybe?
> >
> > > It makes so much sense
> > > that it is almost a given that our government will screw it up.
It
> >is our
> > > one chance to get out from under the burden of foreign oil. You
can
> >bet that
> > > the oil lobby will make sure that never happens.
> >
> >Petroleum products could all be put under a special tax to
discourage
> >their use, to encourage alternatives, to finance research, so that
a
> >gradual process would evolve. It will not happen.
> >
> > > If we went to an all-hydrogen economy, I would gladly park my
M35
> >(mv
> > > content!) and drive my hydrogen-powered SUV anyday. Besides, I
think
> >that a
> > > fuel cell would work nicely in an electric duece-n-a-half! You
could
> >really
> > > sneak around. Imagine hydrogen coming in your house instead of
> >natural gas.
> > > You could make your own electricity, compress it for automobile
> >fuel, and
> > > drink the pure water that it generates.
> > >
> > > Yup - our government will make sure that it never happens!
> >
> >The largest greenhouse gas is water vapor. I don't know how much is
> >produced in a fuel cell large enough for such uses, but when a
couple
> >hundred million are in use, it could be pretty upsetting to some
> >natural balances.
> >
> >But why worry about such details?
> >
> >Dave W.
> >
> >
> >
>
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