From: Neil E. Amrhein (neil@compu-powr.com)
Date: Wed Dec 03 2003 - 12:47:21 PST
Ryan,
I'd say that the tie-downs in/under the bed should work fine, provided they were of sufficient strength and were welded in properly (with enough reinforcement). I'd probably be tempted to mount some anchors to the frame somehow, too, just for good measure.
The only other thing I would wonder about are the ramps themselves. They would have to be pretty long and awfully stout to hold those weights. The cargo bed of a M813 is 56" off the ground with 11.00x20's on it. I'm not sure about the super-singled trucks, but they're probably 3-4" higher. The ramps would have to be almost 10' long to achieve a 30° incline, which is pretty steep to me. It might not be too steep to climb, but you'll also have that breakover angle to clear with your vehicles at the top. Fortunately for you, with relatively short wheelbases, you can overcome sharper angles. It doesn't look like 30° approach angles are a problem for your vehicles.
It definitely would be a cool site to see pulling into a rally.
--Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan M Gill" <rmgill@mindspring.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 3:14 PM
Subject: [MV] 5 Ton Vehicle Transporter
> OK. Since there are often damn good (TM) ideas on
> this list. I thought I'd solicit some more.
>
> As some of you know, I'm looking for a 5 Ton
> truck to act as a transporter for my 3.5 Ton
> British Armored car (WWII). I'd sometimes use it
> to move the 4.5 ton Ferret. Eventually, the truck
> will be pressed into service towing a trailer of
> proper size with the Humber mk IV on it (7 ton
> load). That's down the road however as the Humber
> is still getting losta work performed on it in
> the UK.
>
> Now, the basic question is how would _YOU_ secure
> a 3.5 ton wheeled load that's under 12' long and
> about 4.5 feet high on the bed (or some other
> cargo bed option?). The truck I'm looking at
> again is a LWB that will need a bed added. Either
> custom or a modification to an existing 2.5 ton
> or 5 ton standard bed.
>
> One basic idea I have is to get some cargo tie
> down points that either bolt or weld on and affix
> some heavy angle iron to the chassis so that the
> cargo tie down points are under holes in the
> cargo bed.
>
> Another idea is to get a conventional heavy bed
> from a civilian truck and modify that as a means
> of hauling the Dingo.
>
> Some kind of integral or add on ramps are are a
> key component for loading the Dingo in the truck
> while at events. I also plan on perhaps adding
> some kind of winch off of a rear PTO so as to
> provide a possibility for recovering a
> non-functional vehicle at an event. Ideally
> something that I can deploy or assemble all by
> myself at a MV event as sometimes I'll be on my
> own for loading or unloading.
>
> Cab protection is a question as well. A barrier
> of some sort to help retain the vehicle in the
> bed in the event of some kind of sudden
> deceleration is kind of important. I don't want
> to become a hood (bonnet) ornament for my Dingo.
>
> What cinched this whole method for me was the
> WWII light tank transporter that was built on a
> 6x6 chassis. Eventually, I hope to visually
> modify the truck so that it appears to be a WWII
> type Long Wheelbase truck. Mostly a matter of
> lights, sheet metal and some grill work to
> accomplish this. That's long term.
>
> For reference, here is the Dingo:
> http://www.mindspring.com/~rmgill/britkit/vehicles/images/dingowcarrier.jpg
>
>
> --
> Ryan Gill rmgill@SPAMmindspring.com
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