From: Grant Stockly (grant@stockly.com)
Date: Tue Jan 20 2004 - 04:08:51 PST
By modification, do you mean stealing the axles and mounting 52" tractor
tires up on them? ;)
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The reason I'm interested in one is because the vehicle is innexpensive
and can carry quite a load. I'm interested in improving fuel economy
because if I'm super cheap. :) I also want to use the deuce to carry my
buggy to places where 6x6 will be needed. Of course, I tend to dwell on
subjects, so I'll probably get over it some day. ;)
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, djslager wrote:
> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:01:43 -0600
> From: djslager <djslager@icongrp.com>
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Subject: Re: [MV] Ode to the Deuce
>
> List and Ron,
>
> Reality check
> Yes there have been a number of post concerning deuce modifications. Yes
> they are old trucks but old trucks with new parts can be made to do new
> things, think about it (M35A3). When you said she wasn't designed to be a
> daily driver in the service we drove them daily, sometimes 7 days a week
> especially in times of war. Yes they needed to be fixed and repaired to
> keep going to do the job in all situations just like you said. Some of the
> modifications, like going to singles on the deuce was done. Am I not
> correct? Modifications like free wheeling front end can be bought from
> Arthur M35 products I believe for that purpose. The military should have
> done it but they didn't. Changing 900 X 20 to 1100 x 20 singles was done.
> But other than a few modifications as above that is about all that should be
> done for there era. I do believe a lot what your saying, you are a good
> person, the list is great.
>
> Last Ode To The Deuce
>
> Roses "Are" Red &
> Violets "Are" Blue
> Since you don't understand
> I'll explain it to you,
>
> I bought a deuce
> because it was cheap
> I bought a deuce
> because it was neat,
>
> I bought a deuce
> because it was love
> I bought a deuce
> because it was nice like a dove,
>
> Now I own 4
> but could use even more
> my wife says slow down
> don't go to that "deuce store",
>
> Now that I've got them
> they will have to do
> not quicker
> or nimbler too,
>
> The power is fine
> and the brakes will do
> I don't go fast
> because I'm older than you,
>
> The driveshafts will stay
> and the axles will too
> I won't change it much
> and I won't paint it blue,
>
> Green was my color
> and I liked it too
> Uncle Sam my commander
> with Red, white and blue,
>
> We bitched and moaned
> year after year
> but the deuce
> just kept, haul'n gear,
>
> To us she was pretty
> and saw conflicts too
> she was right there with us
> in the jungle and zoo,
>
> She saw crap then
> and seeing crap now
> mine are retired
> they like it, n' how,
>
> Mine are for fun
> mine are for play
> mine are for parades
> I like it that way,
>
> We just enjoy each other
> as we pass are last days
> just old vets together
> enjoying the way.
>
> Thanks too all on the list, enjoy life while you have it. Douglas
> Slager
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron" <rojoha@comcast.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 2:25 PM
> Subject: [MV] Ode to the Deuce
>
>
> > I think we need a little reality check here.
> > Of late, the number of posts concerning Deuce modifications seem to be
> > increasing. It's true that once you buy it, it's yours to do as you want.
> > Sure, it could be improved upon (ala the M35A3) but the bottom line is
> they
> > are OLD trucks. Weren't meant to go 85 MPH, 0-60 in 10 seconds, stop on a
> > dime, corner like a mountain bike. The tires also are a compromise. Not
> for
> > racing, not for high mileage, not for extreme traction.
> > She wasn't designed to be a daily driver, or a motor touring vehicle,
> > but a TRUCK.
> > It was designed to do a whole bunch of things well, not great, but
> well.
> > A true compromise to meet a TACTICAL requirement of moving STUFF over a
> > combination of paved, unpaved, improved and unimproved dirt roads and in
> > some cases, no roads. In good weather and bad, through water, and in some
> > cases, under water. Arctic, temperate, desert environments, sometimes all
> 3
> > in the same 24 hour period, without missing a beat. With a minimum of
> > preparation and maintenance, under combat conditions. A dependable,
> > reliable, over engineered, teenager proof, bullet proof design.
> > With that in mind, I offer you ....
> >
> > Ode To The Deuce
> >
> >
> > Roses are red.
> > Violets are blue.
> > I really don't understand,
> > what Ya'lls trying to do!
> >
> > Ya'll bought a deuce
> > because it was cheap.
> > Ya'll bought a deuce
> > because it was neat.
> >
> > But now that you've got it
> > It simply won't do.
> > Gotta be quicker,
> > nimbler too!
> >
> > More power is needed,
> > the brakes have to go.
> > The steerings atrocious,
> > wheels scuffing, Oh No!
> >
> > Take off a drive shaft,
> > pull out an axle,
> > it ain't getting much better,
> > but then what does it matter?
> >
> > A Lamborghini it ain't,
> > and it sure ain't no Yugo,
> > but here is something,
> > that ya'll sure oughta know.
> >
> > Year after year,
> > she's served Uncle Sam,
> > Hauling bullets and beans
> > and a whole lota men,
> > doing what had to be done
> > with élan.
> >
> > No bitching, no moaning,
> > year after year,
> > Hauling the men,
> > hauling the gear.
> >
> > Conflicts came,
> > conflicts went.
> > But that old deuce
> > was always ready to dance.
> >
> > She wasn't real pretty
> > but then nor was her job,
> > but she did what was needed
> > no weaving, no bob.
> >
> > Now bought by the boys
> > for use as a toy,
> > and we all know what boys
> > do to their toys.
> > I'll chop it, I'll paint it,
> > the wheels- rearrange them!
> >
> > Bigger engine,
> > super lockers,
> > power steering,
> > we'll stroke it!
> >
> > But seems to me,
> > ya'll lost sight of the bubble.
> > The old girl's a VET,
> > seen lots of trouble.
> >
> > Saw crap from us then,
> > seeing crap from us now.
> > Asking her to do things,
> > she shouldn't,
> > No way, no how.
> >
> > So now how about it,
> > We cut her some slack.
> > Just take her out for a spin,
> > with some kids in the back.
> >
> > Engine roaring and smoking,
> > pedal mashed to the floor,
> > Stroke her back into fifth,
> > Arm out the door.
> >
> > She's been ridden hard,
> > and put away wet,
> > now put out to pasture,
> > by our government
> >
> >
> > But now,
> > She's YOUR deuce,
> > for fun and for play.
> > Do we need to modify and beat her,
> > force on her our way?
> >
> > Why can't we just enjoy her,
> > as she passes her days.
> > A vet due her honors,
> > and past accolades....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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