From: Fred H. Schlesinger (fred@schlesingers.net)
Date: Sat Jan 31 2004 - 06:40:01 PST
Ron and all
I have been putting some of the longer and more informative posts like this on
the MTA discussion board www.schlesingers.net/mta_discussion to preserve them
for posterity.
My hope is that we can use it as a resource in the future and save our fingers.
Feel free to add comments or additional information if you want.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron" <rojoha@comcast.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] My big green truck won't start
| Seeing that RAM is in Florida relaxing and seems to be keeping a low
| profile on the list, I'll chant his standard list mantra....
|
| "Bill, do you have any of the manuals for the truck?"
|
| If not, that is where you HAVE TO start. You can buy them ALL on CD on
| ebay for $10 to $20, or from Gene Panatano on the list here or, if you have
| a fast (DSL or Cable) connection, you can download a good chunk of them (
| except the -10 Operarors manual) for free at :
| http://www.logsa.army.mil/etms/find_etm.cfm
|
| In the TM text block, put in either M44 or M35 and hit search, then right
| click on the manual(s) you want, select 'Save target as....' and put them in
| a folder in your Documents or on your desktop so you can find them.
| Then just follow the steps outlined in the troubleshooting sequences.
| Be advised that the older -209 series manuals on the deuce (avaiable on
| the CD) are far superior to the newer version -361 series manuals that are
| on the LOGSA site now.
| I guess the reason is because the 60's and later birthed kids need to
| be led by the nose in thinking, where as the -209 series of the 60's manual
| required some knowledge of mechanics and assume you know how to find the
| engine to begin with. The -209 series and earlier manuals don't start
| procedures with sequences like "Park Vehicle, shut off engine, apply parking
| break, chock wheels, remove jewelry, don't lick the battery terminals, do
| not use matches to inspect fuel tank level" etc, when your trying to change
| the oil. Or spell out 'Soldier B' to help 'Soldier A' remove the 200 lb
| franistan. The older manuals figure you were bright enough to look at this
| big hunk of metal and realise that when you pull the bolts holding the
| tranny to engine or frame, it WILL fall, so ya better yell over to Charlie
| to give you a hand. Maybe it was of all the 60's kids watching cartoons with
| Wylie Coyote getting crushed by anvils getting up and shaking it off that
| required the "WARNINGS" and "CAUTIONS" in the newer manuals. I won't even
| get in to Connie Rods PC morphication over the years....
| For the best descriptions of the mechanical systems and great photos,
| the mid 50's era manuals (like the TM 9-8022) are best. They do not cover
| the engines we see in the deuces today, since they originally had gas
| engines or the first variant of the multifuel which was quickly replaced,
| but they give great detail in what the designers were trying to do and why
| they did it.
| If you don't have the manuals, and you've never owned a toy like this
| before, you could be in for some painful and expensive lessons, like using
| ether and the Manifold pre heat system (DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!!) at
| the same time...
| The list is a great source of info, but I notice of late that a lot of
| the new Deuce questions are not being answered as quickly as they used to be
| a couple of years ago, probably because a lot of us who were newbies back
| then are not responding as quickly as the oldsters (mechanical Elmers) used
| to back then.
| Good Luck, Ron (zo)
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Bill Kealey" <cwkealey@charter.net>
| To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
| Sent: 29 February, 2004 17:24
| Subject: [MV] My big green truck won't start
|
|
| > Hello folks,
| > I just returned from a fairly long and expensive trip.
|
|
|
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