From: Ryan Gill (rmgill@mindspring.com)
Date: Mon May 10 2004 - 20:54:37 PDT
At 4:20 PM -0700 5/10/04, chance wolf wrote:
>Please be a bit more vigilant with your quotes, as the word "thug(s)"
>appears nowhere in my post, nor any of its followups. I chose "Rottweiler"
>carefully.
Creative btw, initially I thought you were saying
you had several of your own pets in the CUCV....
>Maybes, mightbes...no precedent. We could restrict ownership of all jet
>powered aircraft to the military because a couple were flown into the World
Or Firearms*COUGH*
>Trade Center, but we won't because it's patently silly to anyone with more
>than two clues to rub together. Instead we concentrate our efforts on
>identifying the "idiots" as it should be across the board. The ID checks,
>license checks and personal information checks are all perfectly acceptable
>and valid tools to ensure the person driving the military vehicle onto the
>base or into that "secure area" is who he says he is. I was driving a
>collector vehicle to Canada wearing a wolf t-shirt. Vbied's and secure
>areas didn't enter into the equation.
No kidding, what are you going to do? Get some
gate guard to pull on the antenna while you key
the mic? "Here, hold this wire..."
>We agree on that. Checking wasn't the problem. The attitude was, as was
>the complete abdication of any sort of responsibility towards civility and
>common sense. They can hold me up checking my ID and vehicle license as
>long as they like anytime they like because I recognize that as a necessary
>and valid precaution. The rest of their behaviour wasn't related to the
>above by any stretch of anyone's imagination, and remains completely
>unacceptable.
I agree here. I was detained late one night years
ago when I was driving home from a computer job.
Monday, 2am, speeding and my bike has primer on
it. The officer was polite as were the 4 others
that showed up hoping for something, anything to
allay the boredom. I think they were hoping for a
bike/car chase. Anyhow, I was detained for about
30 minutes, politely checked on (license,
registration, etc, and the bike's VIN was run
against stolen vehicles). The other two officers
that hung around chatted with me about
motorcycles and history and such and were very
polite (clearly bored out of their skulls that
night). In the end, he let me go on the speeding
as I was courteous and was clearly just someone
leaving work, not causing a problem and obviously
a good guy.
I called that Police Zone's Lt the next day and
complemented them on the professional nature of
the traffic stop and the thoroughness. The Lt.
clearly expected me to start complaining when I
described the encounter initially, but when I
continued the positive nature of the conversation
with him he sounded confused but surely walked
away from the phone shaking his head and smiling.
I have enough friend's who've had bikes stolen
that I find the odd checks like that reasonable
in the context of such a stop.
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