From: Robert Ternes (racecadet@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri May 14 2004 - 09:50:56 PDT
Hey Folks,
Thanks for giving the spinning wheels in my head
another whirl - honestly, thanks heaps for the
replies. I've been flipping this whole idea in my head
over and over, and based on the input from members
here, I think I'll Single out the rears, throw some
11x20's on there (or some recentered or redrilled
22.5's), and look for a beefier tranny with a lower
overdrive (and hopefully keep the driveshafts within
critical speed!). The costs for an aftertranny OD box
are prohibitive, and anyway, that would leave me with
precious little room for a driveshaft back to the
tcase (last thing I would want to do is have to move
the tcase!).
This mod would also let me keep both rear axles as God
intended-conjoined twins, which I agree would be a
major sin (and a bloody operation) to seperate. I
might single screw out the rear tandems and dummy the
rear axle, but that's yet another screwball idea
floating around the aether.
And yes, if you knew what I intend to drive with this
thing (highway as well as trail), you'd know it would
be driven as intended. Already I've had this thing in
the rocks and it's better than I had expected. Also,
I've driven heaps of big trucks and even more slow and
quirky offroad contraptions in conditions exceeding
sensibility, so I'm setting my highway expectations
low and hoping to be pleasantly surprised.
Followup Question 1:
By the way, speaking of annoying the neighbors, I have
to put a muffler on this thing. Any suggestions? As
much as I LOVE the rumble, I think a 3.5" muffler will
keep my neighbors giving me their standard bemused
stares, instead of the eventual angry roundeye I'll
get for having a big windowrattler.
Question 2:
Any suggestions for a bigger turbo? Making an adapter
plate for the intake interface is no problem.
Finally, I fabbed up some dummy "lockout hubs" for the
front axle that act like big dust caps for the wheel
bearings, and turn the front hubs into spinners. I see
some fairly expensive ones available (although they do
have Torrington bearings in them and are admittedly
much prettier), but mine were lowbuck (cost of scrap
pipe/plate and shop materials) and hold a ton of extra
bearing grease. I'd be happy to take some measurements
and pics and put up a writeup for these. Any halfway
decent fabber with a cutting torch, a 1/2" transfer
punch, a drill, and some scrap can put these together
in a few hours. Of course, for me, those "few hours"
were the hours between 10PM and 1AM the night before I
flew to pickup, but with more leisure time, you could
do a much better job than I did. :)
By the way, I would have never guessed that the bed
only weighs 1300! I made a MUCH SMALLER (10'x6'), wood
planked bed (no sides or gunwales) for a Mog a few
months ago that tipped in at about 800!
Cheers
Bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marc Strangfeld" <curlyjoe98@yahoo.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
> <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 3:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Weight of an M35a2 bed? And
> general road driven deuce
> questions
>
>
> > Bob,
> >
> > I'll comment on a couple points.
> >
> > 1.You have already proved that you have a long
> > distance truck even though it doesn't go 70+.
> Just
> > remember it's a slow truck in a fast paced world
> and
> > take some safety precautions.
> >
> > 2.The multifuel matched 5 speed is already an
> > overdrive tranny so an auxiliary box may be
> required
> > to get more speed. Also don't overspeed the
> > multifuel. I personally don't run mine over 2200
> but
> > others run theirs at 2600 with no problems (yet).
> >
> > 3.I am planning to put super single 11.00X20.00's
> on
> > mine. With them you have all three axles tracking
> the
> > same and get a little more speed, less rolling
> > resistance, etc. You'll need to turn the hubs on
> the
> > rear axles around to get the wheels inline. Most
> > people use the standard deuce wheel but I found
> some
> > with a little more offset to get a wider stance.
> >
> > 4.I believe taking one of the rear axles off
> should be
> > outlawed but it's your truck do as you wish.
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> > Marc Strangfeld
> >
> > PS Don't forget to buy some lock out hubs and
> power
> > steering.
> >
> > PPS Read through all the archives-lots of good
> info on
> > there.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Robert Ternes <racecadet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Folks,
> > >
> > > I just bought my (first?) M35a2 a few weeks
> back,
> > > and
> > > I'm already planning some mods for it. I have
> been
> > > active a little on the Steel soldiers site, and
> they
> > > have been helpful, but I'm looking for someone
> who
> > > has
> > > been aggressive in modifying their deuce, and I
> was
> > > wondering if you folks could help out. I've
> searched
> > > the website extensively, but haven't really
> found
> > > the
> > > info I need.
> > >
> > > My goal is to turn my deuce into a long range
> Car
> > > Hauler for an offroad project (incidentally also
> > > using
> > > deuce Rockwell axles!), and I am looking for
> some
> > > info:
> > >
> > > 1. Weight of a standard M35 bed, non dropside. I
> > > would
> > > guess this weighs more than a standard JerrDann
> > > aluminum bed. :) I am thinking of fabbing up a
> > > "catamaran" style bed, open center, that I can
> drive
> > > a
> > > vehicle onto.
> > >
> > > 2. Any writeups on turning up the fuel screw,
> upping
> > > the boost or otherwise getting some more top end
> > > ponies out of a Herc multifuel? I have no
> intentions
> > > on burning pistons or exhaust, so any mods I do
> are
> > > going to be coupled with boost, pyro, and tranny
> > > temp
> > > gauges.
> > >
> > > 3. Has anyone done any "advanced" axle swaps
> (like
> > > doing single rear axle) or modifications to fit
> very
> > > large tires on a deuce to extend its MPH range
> into
> > > the low 70's? Another idea is to swap a tranny
> with
> > > a
> > > higher range into it - I guess these use the SAE
> nš2
> > > bellhousing, which hopefully also denotes a
> standard
> > > splining and flexplate? I want to keep the
> double
> > > reduction axles and high axleshafts - I've
> turned
> > > enough driveshafts into pretzels to not
> appreciate
> > > those.
> > >
> > > I'm enchanted with the deuce, and I love its
> offroad
> > > prowess and overall feel. I love driving this
> thing,
> > > but I have a vision of it being more roadworthy
> in
> > > general. I'm also stoked to have a mild recovery
> > > vehicle, capable of getting far into trails to
> get
> > > either my Jeep or my Chevy projects, and if the
> idea
> > > of high speed carhauler is a bust, I'll still
> > > cherish
> > > this thing as the ultimate cool pickup. I drove
> this
> > > thing back from Detroit for 36 nearly straight
> > > hours,
> > > and I loved every minute of it. :)
> > >
> > > Any insight is appreciated.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Bob in Boulder CO (total gearhead)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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